Dream Interpretation Thread

[feranaja]

I don't know about you, but I often have dreams that, while I thikn I have some level of a handle on the meaning, I like to get another perspective on. I tend to a Jungian viewpoint first, but I grant validity to all avenues of understanding, pretty much. So this therad is for us to play around with our dream material, the ones that mystify, delight or perplex.

For starters, I had a very sensual dream although not explicitly erotic, about a character form a soap opera I watch, and I mean this isnt someone I find especially desirable in waking life. In Jungian terms this could be a sort of reconciliation with my animus, but I'd have to look deeply at that character and what he represents to me. The dream was set at the ocean and the waves were very high, so a certain turbulence of the psyche is suggested too, by connecting with the animus in a sexual way, I am stirring up some powereful complexes?

Have you ever dreamed of a connection, sexual or romantic, with someone you dont actually feel that way about or are even UN attracted to in real life?

I'm not sure how to take it. but it wasn't unpleasant and I woke feeling somehow at peace with myself.

Anyone else have a dream to share, post it here and we can play around a bit.
feranaja

[YsetEternal]

I would contribute to this thread, but I tend to not sleep deep enough to dream 90% of the time. I do have one that repeats itself every so often that Ive had since the age of 7. Its a very empowering dream, and the one time I used acid, there is was in my face really. I was living it. It was intense, I havent had if for many years now, and I thinks its because I realized it was true...

[Nuhad418]

For starters, I had a very sensual dream although not explicitly erotic, about a character form a soap opera I watch, and I mean this isnt someone I find especially desirable in waking life. In Jungian terms this could be a sort of reconciliation with my animus, but I'd have to look deeply at that character and what he represents to me. The dream was set at the ocean and the waves were very high, so a certain turbulence of the psyche is suggested too, by connecting with the animus in a sexual way, I am stirring up some powereful complexes?


feranaja

Ok, my take on dream interpretation is that no one dream should be taken in solitude. They are usually evidential of an ongoing process. This one does seem to be an animus dream. Yet, the figure is from a soap opera, a rather shallow form of entertainment (don't get huffy! I love a certain English soap that shall remain nameless). If the dream is compensatory, as one theory states all dreams are, then what is it compensating? What aspect of the animus, should that be it, is out of whack? Do you idealise the animus and therefor a figure who is not especially desireable is presented to ground it a bit or is it that you are moving from a generally undifferntiated and unconscious animus and therefor hostile to the ego-complex-thereby giving you this average figure to deal with?

what was the conversation you had? What was said? What was the sky like? What were you wearing? Him?

The ocean could be the unconscious...deepending on your relation with water.

the most important aspect of looking at dreams are the details and more importantly the details we "forget".

[feranaja]

Verrrrry interesting Dr. Goat...and yep, this was a figure from that same soap, I mean the only one I watch, too. ;)

My animus figures as you may recall were all horrible serial killer type maniacs for a long long time, then became angels, and now are...average blokes from The Street, who dont really attract me in waking life.

It's hard to remember the details here except it felt like I was reclaiming the Venusian with an archetypal "average bloke" in a very dramatic and elemental setting.

What might be worth evaluating is, who are the female figures in the character's life? He's always involved with total madwomen. I mean he's on insane chickie number three.

Maybe I need to relcaim my inner lunatic??? Is this a warning that if I repress the venusian I will be forced back into a confrontation with it anyway?

Or how would the Jungian say that one?
fera (thanks, too, I alwasy appreciate your insights and hope others will post dreams here too)

[feranaja]

Could I also suggest that you maybe post a Jungian glossary for use oin this thread? Not that I want to limit the interpretations to Jung by any means, ubt for those who arent working on doctorates in Jungian theory it could be helpful. I find the system very useful, but it does take some familiarity. Can y0u post some definitions, in your spare time that is?

fera

[Nuhad418]

What might be worth evaluating is, who are the female figures in the character's life? He's always involved with total madwomen. I mean he's on insane chickie number three.



Perhaps. I think it can become problematic if we deviate too far from the dream content though. What is of more interest is why the unconscious chose that image, in that context and at that moment.

[feranaja]

Perhaps. I think it can become problematic if we deviate too far from the dream content though. What is of more interest is why the unconscious chose that image, in that context and at that moment.
Ok, fair enough - why, then? Why Steve MacDonald and not, say Russell Crowe?:laugh:
I cant make sense of it, and its not the first time Ive had a dream of this type ...

[Nuhad418]

Ok, fair enough - why, then? Why Steve MacDonald and not, say Russell Crowe?:laugh:
I cant make sense of it, and its not the first time Ive had a dream of this type ...

Like I have any clue...sheesh. And the last thing I want to do is get inside your head :o_O: :no:

[feranaja]

Like I have any clue...sheesh. And the last thing I want to do is get inside your head :o_O: :no:
Ok fair enough, it's a scary place...BUT...the original point is, when one has a rmantic type dream about a person they have no conscious attraction to - what kinds of mechanisms would you say are at work here?? A new aspect of the animus, needs personal consideration? Is that about it?

You never had a hot dream about Emily Bishop? Come on...
but seriously though.
fera

[Nuhad418]

Ok fair enough, it's a scary place...BUT...the original point is, when one has a rmantic type dream about a person they have no conscious attraction to - what kinds of mechanisms would you say are at work here?? A new aspect of the animus, needs personal consideration? Is that about it?

You never had a hot dream about Emily Bishop? Come on...
but seriously though.
fera
Who is Emily Bishop? GOOD GOD NO!!
I would say that it could be a domestic issue. A complex realted to safe men or dometic men. Or men that may have a soft spot for loonies! :laugh: Could be related to a father complex. Like I said, it would need to be taken in relation to other dreams.

[feranaja]

Ahh - I just had a breakthrough there! I think its suggesting... that I equate my Venusian self with being slightly crazy, less responsible...and that being in control means somehow harnessing my libido(in the full sense of the word)...

My Artemisian self is calm, productive, in control, and...cold. This actually makes a lot of sense now. And magic is the art of changing consciousness at Will, so...its not really an either-or scenario.


This was helpful - how much will that be?? Three pitchers?
Done...
fera

[Nuhad418]

Ahh - I just had a breakthrough there! I think its suggesting... that I equate my Venusian self with being slightly crazy, less responsible...and that being in control means somehow harnessing my libido(in the full sense of the word)...

My Artemisian self is calm, productive, in control, and...cold. This actually makes a lot of sense now. And magic is the art of changing consciousness at Will, so...its not really an either-or scenario.


This was helpful - how much will that be?? Three pitchers?
Done...
fera
As I'm not an analyst I could never take payment for untrained blithering. However, feel free to buy me a pitcher for no reason at all anytime! lol

[Kazahel]

I had a dream not that long ago which I still think about sometimes.. I dreamt that I was just walking up a winding path which was going over slight hills. It looked like I was in a story book almost. Anyway I went lucid and knew I was dreaming so I thought I woud shapeshift by doing that running technique that I do(I just run then place my hands down and keep running which shapeshifts me),which worked but I couldnt run and I just tripped over my hands. I ended up falling and actually coming to a stop(which is a first).. anyway when I stood up I looked at my hands which had shifted into a lions but were coming out from almost under my actual hand. So instead of my hands fully shifting to paws I had a set of paws coming from under my wrists as well. It was weird and kinda freaky because if felt like my paws were broken because they didnt run and they just hung there(and they were large too like double my hand). Anyway so I thought well I'm not running anymore thats for sure so I actually tried to roar to see what it was like(I've done a wolf howl once and that was really cool).. and when I roared as a semi lion it was really kinda funny because I sounded very young and nothing like I had hoped. It almost made me laugh. But I think that was because I was alittle thrown about basically having four hands/paws.. well thats my excuse.. and I wasnt fully shifted.

Anyway so I started to jump and bound instead because I wanted to keep moving and I ended up just jumping over the hills and follwing the path until I woke up pretty much.

[Kazahel]

Oh sorry did I forget to say that your welcome to help me work out what this dream means. Any ideas?

[Kazahel]

Wow this place seems pretty dead hey. :eek:

I thought my shapeshifting dream was pretty interesting personally.. I guess its abit tricky to interpret though because I was fully lucid? ...

[Lucian]

If it were my dream, I would just interpret it as meaning I could stand to work on gaining more control while lucid. It takes time and effort to be able to get exactly what you want - even when perfectly lucid. I usually just get it in the ball park of what I wanted.

Perhaps you could try visualizing being a lion as you fall asleep and make it as vivid and detailed as you can? After doing this for a while, it will probably continue when you begin dreaming and it might become easier to become lucid and to shift as you want to.

[Phoenix]

Well maybe you can help me.

I dreamt, that i was in a corridor, more like a 1st floor varanda (something like this)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Convento-de-Cristo_claustro-do-cemit%C3%A9rio.jpg/200px-Convento-de-Cristo_claustro-do-cemit%C3%A9rio.jpg (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagem:Convento-de-Cristo_claustro-do-cemit%C3%A9rio.jpg)

But covered with ivy from top to bottom, from all it´s extension.
In the midle of the "corridor" there is a statue of a cherubin holding a vase, poring another ivy from it, this statue as the building itself is very old.
There is a group of people in front of me i have the felling that i know them, about 6 to 7 people, the corridor is long and turns right on the bottom of it
when i am lokking to the statue, (the statue is on top of the platform of the edge of the corridor on my left side), the group of people in front of me turns right in the corner and disapeares.
When i get there i see that the corridor ends there, in one of the corner´s there is a mirror a deep black mirror, with a litle gargoyle on top with two red stones as eyes.
i reach the mirror and look at it and then something happens and i wake up...

This is it, so can you help me deciphre it?

[Kazahel]

I had a trippy dream last night which I might share here because it was pretty cool..

I dreamt that I was crying because I was to be alone.. but it wasnt a bad thing.. I dreamt I was crying heaps and a voice said that I should just try forget because I was more now, and that I should just walk around with this other person who was like an old friend from school when they were younger. At that point I just kinda thought.. no way because you cant keep up with me... and I went semi lucid where I knew I was dreaming but I kept with the flow of the dream instead of really changing it too much. Anyway the voice wanted me to hang out with this stranger(to walk with and instruct kinda, around the sandy city)but I didnt want to because I knew he wouldnt keep up with me(I like to move fast in dreams). Like at that stage I had gone kinda semi lucid and I was all rainbow coloured(very richly like paint). So I was like this blob of colour. So I didnt have a body or anything.. it was like I was a oily rainbow water drop and how I moved changed my form.

Anyway I said to the guy that he can come along if he can keep up, and to show what I meant I placed my fingertips into the sand(which where like water almost)and I lept like a cat and then kinda ran with my arms really fast up to this building, which I jumped through the wall(like passed through it like a ghost). Then I found myself inside a hotel so I jumped up through the roof and landed on the next floor above(which had red carpet)but I wanted the roof so I jumped up again and came out on an old tin roof(it was like a backpackers hotel). Then I just sat there looking out at the sunset, kinda seeing myself from this outside view and I had grown alot larger from moving.. like my arms were bigger because I had used them to move with. So I had a ruff shape but I was all colour and no skin at all.. just like a paint blob that changed form(and colour kinda)when I moved. So then I just stayed there looking out at the sunset sitting on the roof thinking how I had lost the guy who wanted to come along, but I didnt care that much at that stage because it was a very pretty scene. But it was also kinda sad because at the same time I knew I was alone still and I understood why. So it was pretty but I didnt have anywhere to go or anyone to share it with and I had nothing else I really wanted to do in the dream, so I just watched the sunset alone as this oily rainbow water blob thingy.

So yeah it was quite trippy because its the first time I've ever dreamt of being a liquid and moving around and stuff. It was also very much like the dream I had with the serpents awhile ago.. like the serpent colours were the same oily dark paint colours as last night. So it was familiar.

[fr.novumorganum]

I've never been very good at dream interpretation (except in a few psychoanayltic classes) but I do remember being told that a dream journal, scribbled in every morning, was a good way to find keys to dream sequences.

[m1thr0s]

This is it, so can you help me deciphre it?simple self-observation dream I think, remarkable primarily for the richness of its surroundings, suggesting that you have come into great good fortune with respect to esoteric resources. The people are of no special consequence but implicate community. The dream may actually be a reflection on this site and the impact it is having on your personal development.

best guess...I don't presume to be a prophet but I have good instincts regarding symbolism.

m1thr0s

[Kazahel]

I've never been very good at dream interpretation (except in a few psychoanayltic classes) but I do remember being told that a dream journal, scribbled in every morning, was a good way to find keys to dream sequences.Yes true.. I used to keep a dream journal ages ago but now I'm too lazy to bother. Easy come easy go is more my attitude now. But yeah maybe I should just keep typing them out..

I cant stop thinking about the paint though in my last dream.. Like after I had ran for alittle I stopped just quickly(after jumping through the wall).. because I was sweating(or so it felt like)... like I had liquid running down my face and so I used my hand to wipe it away, which is when I saw that my hand was all red with little black spots like snake skin. I had no actual skin only dark red serpent skin with black spots(on that hand). So it felt like I had wiped off red paint which was the same colour as the red serpent in a dream I had awhile ago. I remember it felt almost like war paint at the time because after I had seen it on my hand I wiped both of them over my face and eyes to kinda repaint them before jumping through the roof. I just remember thinking I had like serpent war paint on which was changing colours. But the main colour I saw was a rich dark red with black spots.

It was very trippy.

[m1thr0s]

hmmm...transitional theme...those are tricky. an imposed discomfort for some supposed greater good, not unlike taking on a job you don't want to make ends meet...

huge splash of color...probably an instinctive reaction against the apparent restriction.

appears to be a situational reflection...probably not in your past...something on the horizon perhaps.

still...could be a recurrent situational dilemma of some kind. a hint of parenting issues here as well...

difficult call on this one.

m1thr0s

[Kazahel]

Yeah who knows. It could mean lots of things.. and it was a lucid dream mainly so they are kinda different to read maybe..

But nah basically it was another shapeshifting dream except in this one I wasnt really human or animal, I was more like a chameleon because I remember kinda thinking that at the time because of how my colours was changing.

[m1thr0s]

Yeah who knows. It could mean lots of things.. and it was a lucid dream mainly so they are kinda different to read maybe..I don't know that that's even it so much as that dream symbolism isn't "honest" symbolism in the sense of being accessable to other people...it's all highly stylized stuff so the best dream interpreter in the world can't be very certain of his/her interpretations unless the symbols happen to fall within fairly recognized guidelines...

I try mainly to eck out themes as much as possible which can be a little more successful, but this is not a very evolved science despite having been around as a pseudo-science for who-knows how many thousands of years... and in all that time, no one seems to have emerged as a bona fide master of this game. Or if we do hear of them by way of reputation, they have conveniently left us no real trail to follow...

So it's nearly a complete waste of time save for the fact that a few patterns at least are recognizable and there always seems to be a way into all of this...

whatever that might be...

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

I dont care for dream interpretation but I like fun stories so I'll share a dream:

Yesterday I saw a dream in that I went over a wide grassy plain with my "father"/a Saturn-figure, who I have befriended. The weather is clement but there are some light grey clouds in the sky. It is completely windstill. but even so we can see a huge tornado at some distance- a few kilometres off, cause we can see far over the flat fields and grassy plains. It is just massive and emminent- majestetic! It consists of dark grey clouds that move in a twisting motion over land...Then the sky clears a bit and yellow dimn light comes through. The tornado becomes weaker and stops/dissolves. only one tiny cloud segregates itself from it and comes towards us wanderers. (we are on an earthen path across the fields surrounded by shrubs without leaves). It comes nearer and nearer and twirls and twists in the air in front of us. It has the size of a fist and it is utterly darkly black- it is even "yellow" (I cant see this but only guess since this colour is black upon black, and thats why its yellow, I imagine). It is very, very scary cause I am fully aware that this little ball is the essence of that huge storm, of that powerful tornado, and it could break out into one right here at any second.

And it is circling around me and finally it comes in front of my eyes and we look at one another and then it goes to my neck and merges itself with me.

It was scary but no real nightmare- I wasnt really terrified, I was scared at first, but then rather awed. An experience of pure unrefined nature.

[Naomi]

Weird Kuroyagi, I had something similar happen, with something merging with my neck. It was a furry blue spider though...happened some time around the time when there was a new occult msg board just opening up 5-6 years ago...I thought it had something to do with priest/priestess work, speaking for whatever power had chosen you, as I became quite uncharacteristically vocal about my work and beliefs a few months later on this occult forum, and Iktomi started hanging out all around my house, in my dreams, on my door, on windowsills. It was a veritable spider hotel....

Btw, Saturn is also yellow....

I'm finding more weird things about Saturn than I ever could have imagined. It's true when you look into chaos, chaos also looks into you, and drags you into her big and little dramas, as we saw with the Ma'at-Saturn changeover recently.

Perhaps this has something to do with that. I know you just said you don't care for interpretation but I couldn't resist, sorry! :D

[Kuroyagi]

yeah why is it the neck? if it was a mere story I would have written it differently. I would have had facing it me eye to eye. but this was not the case.

I also had some spider episodes 3 years ago. what I was really surprised at in your account was the (color) the blue spider. I had many encounters w spider and he never was blue. the most recent was that there were very big spiders in my bed, but they were black and big and maybe red and yellow.

saturn and maat is ok.

[Naomi]

DO you know, I kind of looked at the Siva myth for answers on this one, his throat turns blue when he drinks the poison of the world serpent...also the throat chakra of communication is indigo...which Is why I noticed in retrospect I became very communicative in regards to the occult just then, before I was super secretive and shy.

Iktomi's colors are red, white and yellow, and also black around his eyes. Sometimes he is shiny black allover, even in human form. (traditionally)

[Zaii]

Most of my dreams are lengthy, highly detailed, and involve parallel worlds with the same people I know or have met in this life but as different characters. I can usually interpret and learn from them pretty well.

However, lately, I've been having recurring dreams where the entire world looks like the interface from that PS2 game God Of War, right down to the "collectable" energy rising up from the souls of the dead. While this at first was just comical to me, particularly because I don't really spend much time on video games and haven't in years, it keeps happening, and for the life of me I can't figure any of it out. Typically I can puzzle out the meaning of my dreams at least partially, but I don't have the slightest clue as to why I've been dreaming in a video game interface.

Any ideas?

[m1thr0s]

well that's new...

I wonder if it might be linked to the accident in some way...

was this going on prior to that or has it just kicked in since?

m1thr0s

[Kazahel]

I think reading this thread on blue throats might of given me a dream because it was around the same time , but its not quite the same thing I dont think..

I dreamt the other night that I was walking on the street with another person when we got attacked. The person who attacked us was short and solid and wore a grey jumper with a dark brown beenie, and there was a few people around but I only really focused on him. There was a quick scuffle but then I was afraid for my life so I just reached out and grabbed his head and twisted it until I snapped his neck. I didnt want to really hurt him but it was the only way to save us so I just did it kinda softly until I heard and felt it actually snap. It was pretty gross and it made me cringe because I could feel it kinda pop. Anyway after I snapped it I just held him up and looked at his face which went all blue and he had his tongue sticking out just a little.. so I knew he was dead. It was a weird dream because I didnt actually want to hurt him but it was all I could do, so I did it as gently as I could. And after I snapped it I kinda just felt sorry for him. He wasnt english looking either.. he looked kinda indian and I remember thinking he looked abit like a fisherman because of how he was dressed.

Anyway I mainly remembered this dream because I read something today which reminded me of it again.. Which I thought was trippy timing considering I dont do that very often in dreams.

http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2324640520070223

[Zaii]

well that's new...

I wonder if it might be linked to the accident in some way...

was this going on prior to that or has it just kicked in since?

m1thr0s

It's only happened since.

[m1thr0s]

It's only happened since.
interesting. I would venture to guess that your dream mind is attempting to "objectify" the incident and everything that may be attached to it as well. Standing back from it in this way...framing it like a video game...is a way to establish a rational distance where it can be scrutinized without having to relive it...

The dream mind isn't terribly interested in reliving the actual event so much as reprocessing everything that is connected to it emotionally, psychologically, peripherally in some way... So we wouldn't expect to see an exact replay of the crash for instance. What concerns the mind the most is the loss of control itself. It's as if it is attempting to rebuild a set of controls to account for that gap.

m1thr0s

[Copuldaemon]

I had a dream where I was with this elite task force unit involved in something crazy with the elemental of Chuck Norris cheesiness added to it.
Anyway, in through the mid-end part of the dream there was this 20 ft. bull with a human head and a blue face crashing the the walls, stomping on cars, people, enemies, EVERYTHING but for some reason it was after me.
So it was running (charging) to me and I shot it dead in the middle of the eyes and it died. WTF? lol.

[Cosmicbrat]

I'm thinking that dreams are to be taken full face value...

If the dream is scattered and goofy, then it is probably your mind telling you were you is at in life... But it's tough to see face value in something that never happened to you, and you have never seen nor heard about... When you get that type of dream, probably the best approach in determining what it means is to get a good handle on what words and symbols mean to you... I.E.: I say "tree".. Some think of water-aged birds-eye maple lumber, while some think of fruit tree saplings.. while others see a huge mighty pine tree.. whilst a termite sees food and a home.. whilst a bird sees a place for a nest...
Know your "trees"...

Check out your vehicle... If it is hard to start.. you are probably hard to get started... If it is falling apart, your life is probably in the same state of affairs...
If the windshield is seriously cracked, your eyes are probably deteriorating...
If it wastes a lot of gas and oil, it probably reflects your wastefulness... If it has leaks.. um.. you can play with that one...
Dream works the same way...

The problem in knowing your own symbols, is that your definition of a symbol is not stationary stable... it changes as you get varied and new input...
A sword may be a decorative piece above a fireplace.. till you see a burglar slice off your parent's heads with it... Now the decorative mantle piece is a nightmare to you, forever...

It seems that everyone agrees that dreams carry messages...
How you take the message is all dependent on how sensitive you are to yourself, and to the inner workings of your mind...

Examples: I was in a slump with women... Seems all the ladies I was meeting I wasn't in their league as far as they were concerned... They were all into spending a lot of money, and expensive sports cars.. and I had none to waste on the bitches...
Losing so often started to grind at my emotions.. and drove me into a little bit of a depression... I decided I would best use my time to prepare for a two week wilderness excursion, to get to know me better... A solo trip...
I prepped my equipment.. and on a whim I purchased a smith and weson snub nosed 38 stainless-steel chief's special, and got a box of the biggest meanest hard-jacketed bullets it would take.. and took it out in the country to have a little harmless fun target practice with it... Sure was LOUD! and those huge bullets had quite the kick.. At night the blast of flame shot out for a three to four feet like a rocket's flame... A couple days later I had a dream of me in a bed.. a stairwell's top-step opening at a door at the foot of my bed... In the dream a tremendous beast was making its way up the steps.. then I woke... The dream happened again, the beast was growling fierce... I woke before it showed... The third time the dream happened, I just happened to have the 38 under my pillow.. not loaded of course... The beast growled as fierce as it gets... A huge werewolf, appeared at the doorway, and leapt at me... In the dream I eased the pistol from under the pillow, held it relaxed in two hands, and fired at its head three times... Each shot, the beast faded 30%, to gone... I woke with my ears ringing like I had really heard the gunshots... The next week I met a nice lady who didn't have an insatiable appetite for money... She was only interested in sex...

The wolf dream is doubts of ones manhood...

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It's the waking dreams that'you gotta watchout for... A nasty nun had insulted my steady... I found her leaning against the high school wall, crying... She related the story how the nun said she was gonna break us up, by bad mouthing me to her parents... I held her close, and tried to quell the anger overload, and pulled all her pain from her into me...
All my skin felt as hot as boiling... I wanted to destroy that nun as hard and fast as a lightning bolt could...
While I held her trembling petite body in my arms, my angers faded into something else... We were only standing in a hall of a school building... I looked up at a huge slow spiraling sky, like looking straight up through the eye of a huge mighty tornado... Below my feet the floor changed into a pit of boiling molten lava, about half a mile below... She glanced up in shock.. then glanced down in horror.. and stood on my shoes with the tips of her toes, and made a frightened whine sound, and held to me for dear life... I still haven't got a clue what it was.. nor how she saw it too... It felt like I held all the forces in my hands and head... I instructed her to close her eyes, and I would make it go away... It went away...
Waking dreams are way too powerful...

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2:35 AM this morning, I caught a little insight on the function and value of dream... This morning I had a dream that was "right on the money", in absolute real-time... In the dream a couple thieving prowlers were peaking into my pickup truck door windows with flashlights... One young fellow was dressed in a red jacket, the other in a yellow/orange checkered jack shirt type jacket... I pounded on the bedroom window, and yelled at them, expecting to frighten them away.. but they didn't hear my noises... Suddenly I was awake... I jumped out of bed, dressed quick, and outside I went in a hurry.. to see no one was near my truck... Half a block down the street I saw two young fellows, one in a red jacket, the other in a yellow orange jacket...

I'm thinking that dreams are warnings and solutions, sent to your conscious from your mind, spirit, and soul, and maybe other sources of you...

I bet if you were to light a pack of matches one by one, and hold each lit match to your skin, just to barely feel the heat.. then toss the match... and repeat it for five days, one match-book per day... I bets you have a dream about fire burning your skin.. Your mind telling you that you are toying with something very stupid and dangerous...


You need to direct that part of your mind that cooks-up dreams... You need to address that part of you on friendly terms, like you caress an affectionate kitten...
You must teach that part of your mind that you are only and all ways gentle and kind to it... Condition it, that every time it does you good it gets an honest thank-you and a loving cosmic embrace, as gentle as a new mom caressing her baby's colicky tummy...

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This morning I'm at the computer at 10:20 AM, and an old man's face shows in my mind's eye, just like a dream would, but I'm awake...
The old dude resembles my grandfather on my father's side... Right off I know it's Leo, that GD SOB what molested me when I was 3-months... He's got his nerve!.. approaching me cuz he has just died, and doesn't have a clue what to do next.. and he figures he's got the rights to now try to possess my Being... He probably figures that since I have a better handle on the occult than he has, that I'm his salvation... Instantly I reached down the big hand, and ripped his head off, and squished it like a grape.. and place it in the two-dimensional realms, then gently pushed his remnants away from me, in a decaying orbit around the planet...
HaH!.. Gottcha back Leo! You is staying in hell, you nutcase RomanCatholic baby-assassin, without out so much as a dream nor a prayer in hell...

Waking dreams are way too powerful...

[Copuldaemon]

Wow, okay. I understand. My own interpretation of the dream that I had was that the bull with the blue human's face represented my depression being stubborn and for some reason was threatening me and I had to kill the beast in which I did.

[Cosmicbrat]

Probably right-on in that case...

There is another approach to neutralize a nightmare, without killing it...
I learned it when the George attacked me remotely...
The George is the ex Quebec tough guy cop people-bully, who started psychic fares in North America, and the "Mind Awareness New Age Centers" originating in Toronto, with Yogi Alfred Narayana as silent partner and mentor... He sent a huge mindform gorilla to harm me.. I know where he got it.. I recognized it... I wasn't quite asleep.. I sensed his approach, and watched the gorilla enter my bedroom, and pause a moment at the doorway.. is when I eased out of bed, and made my way to the beast, and reached my arms around it, and gave it a big hug.. is when my hand bumped into an AKA umbilical, which I immediately severed with my sword... I healed its wound so it wouldn't bleedout, and installed a new directive into the gorilla, and gave it a home in my storage closet.. instructing it that it did not want to ever return to the cold vile hateful place it came from... I gave it a gentle pat on the bum, and firmly pushed it into my closet... In a couple minutes I was back to bed, and asleep...

Dealing with that mindform beast taught me that it is better to embrace and cuddle the beasts of nightmares than it is to just up and kill them...

I feel bad that I shot the wolf beast when I probably could have made friends with it...


Years later, I was trying to get to sleep in my station wagon.. after escaping an out of control crazy party... As I drifted into sleep, a pesky cosmic-critter would wake me repeatedly by crawling all over me... I swung and slapped at it, to no avail...
I managed to hit it once, and it went away, but returned as a mighty werewolf, really pissed that I hit its friend, or baby...
The wolf growled at me so fierce it nearly made me piss myself... I returned its growl to the best of my ability.. and it took that as compliment, and that I wasn't a threat any longer, because of my puny attempt at growling its way... It grinned, and made a strange curious whiny sound, and left me be...

Now days, rather nights.. I generally approach the beasts in nightmares, and give a big hug, and a friendly little pat on the bum.. unless I note the slightest negative intent showing in the corners of its eyes and mouth... is when I swing my sword through its neck so fast that I cuts its name in-two...

Train yourself to give nightmare beasts an honest friendly embrace... You'll get a lot more mileage from it that way... Unless it is evil.. then by all means kill it, like I kill attacking remote viewers...

[Kazahel]

I think I had another shared dream last night with my son!

In the morning my son came in to wake me up and so I asked him what he dreamt last night. I asked him without telling anything of my dreams while I was thinking about this dream I had. Anyway my son said he dreamt that he was a big shark, and that there was a big t-rex in the ocean which was so big it's feet were touching the ground but its head was still out of the water. He said he was eating the t-rex's feet first and then he ate him all up. Then he said he ate a scuba diver up too. So I asked him if it was night time or day time and he said it was dark after he had eaten the t-rex.

Anyway I dreamt last night that I was in the ocean(had fallen from a boat I think)with another person who I didnt know but was a friend. The light was just fading and the water was getting pretty dark and scary and when I looked down I saw one of the biggest sharks I've ever seen. It swam right under my feet(like almost touching them) and it was just huge(like a whale size almost).. Anyway the person next to me started to get eaten by his feet and he was screaming and I was panicking and didnt go lucid at all and was just trying to figure out how to survive. Anyway I started to swim away because I thought maybe if I got far enough away the shark would only eat him. But I felt kinda bad because he was a friend and I thought its probably going to get me too, so I turned around with the intention to try to punch the shark in the head while he was eating so maybe I could scare it off. Anyway my friend got eaten quickly and I was just left floating in the water waiting for my turn.. but I dont actually remember getting eaten.. it was like the dream ended there.

But after a few more dreams my last dream was of me jumping off a boat and onto the sand of the shore to which I just rolled on with my back like how a cat does. I was so happy to be on the shore I just rolled around infront of everyone for awhile like a crazy man which I could see they were thinking but it was only because I was so happy to be on the shore.

So yeah.. it was pretty trippy because I dont dream of swimming in the ocean with sharks very often, and it was the frist time I think my son has ever dreamt he was a feeding shark. So for us to both dream those dreams the same night spun me out. I think I mustve been the scuba diver which got eaten after he ate my friend which in his dream was the t-rex which I guess he got from his t-rex teddy bear he slept with last night.

But I dont know for sure because I did make it to shore later. So I dunno. But the good thing is is that my kid dreamt he was a shark. I mean I've done that when I was lucid only a year ago or so and for him to just dream it is pretty cool..

[Kazahel]

lol.. hey check this out..

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21589818-2,00.html

I just saw this on the news and I thought about my dream I had the other night. :p

You see my kid told me that he had tried to take out a boat when he was a shark also. So he attacked a boat in his dream and ate a swimmer after the t-rex. I kinda remember taking a hand which was offered to get me out of the water and I climbed on the back of a boat which was low enough for me to just climb on(I cant explain it well but it had like a white shelf to climb on before getting into the boat. It was only a half memory and the hand was like white light but yeah anyway..

I thought this little boat reminded me of that dream above.

And my guess is they got eaten by something.

[Kazahel]

I had another strange coincidence which I know people wont believe but I guess I should tell it anyway. It sounds alittle weird but yeah... I'll keep it short..

I was reminded of one of the greats... Iron Maiden.. a few days ago.. and so I thought about a favorite song(which was Aces High), so I watched the video on you tube for old times sake( YouTube - Iron Maiden - Aces High).

Then I was watching a video which was posted later(the next day I think)by someone else which was called the highwayman(YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.).. and when I saw the jet plane in the video, I just thought that it should crash,(it was the main thing I thought about for the vid)and so I thought about the Aces High video which I had watched the day before, and I thought how that would make the jet crash. I dont know why I did that.. I just did. But I gave it more thought as I was re watching the Aces High video after the highwayman video to shoot the jet plane down. I remember thinking it wasnt a fair match but it'll do. :p

Anyway I had a dream the other night but I cant tell what night I had it, but I just remember crashing a jet and then later thinking that that was because I had seen the iron maiden video and that was what triggered the crashing dream. So I didnt think much of it. But basically I remember holding onto the pilots controls and trying to figure them out while I knew I was going to crash. So I just dreamt very quickly that I couldnt control this jet but then I thought that maybe I was dreaming and then I crashed into trees. So I started to go lucid when I was crashing and didnt care that much so I crashed it and that was it. It was very quick. I was scared.. but I was semi lucid so I wasnt scared scared.

Anyway what I find as strange is the timing, and how a plane crashed somewhere in America just recently.(http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6408441&nav=menu89_2). which was one of those 'Blue Angels'.. which reminds me alittle of my quick crashing dream I had, which I think I triggered from watching Aces High. Like so anotherwords... I thought it was a strange coincidence that I had wanted to make a jet crash through music(in some ways)and then with the dream and this 'blue angel' plane crash the next day.. I just spinout alittle. Kinda along the same lines as the mysterious Kaz II... but aerial.

And I just cant fly jets that good hey.. its not as easy as it looks. lol. I even tried to climb out for a moment to bail but I thought nah I'm dreaming.. so I crashed it instead.

Crazy huh.

[Kazahel]

Oh man.. I had a disturbing dream last night. I dont have a clue why I dreamt it either..

I dreamt that I was out the back of my old house at night time, and I think there was a party there because the party lights where on. I didnt look around or anything because I was just holding a katana, and I had just gotten in a fight with a person I knew from way back in high school(who I havent seen since about then). I dont remember what led up to the fight or anything but I used my sword straight away and did a side strike to his neck(I tried to cut his head off).. but the sword only went through half way, so instantly I did the opposite strike and matched it perfectly on the other side, which then made the sword go all the way through. Then he just slid down the wall as if to sit down and I looked at him for a few seconds and he looked pretty dead. He was all pale and just had that look and I could see the big cut marks on his neck but almost no blood. He wasnt wearing a shirt or anything and it looked like at that stage that he was from the morgue and had died ages ago. Then it looked as if he went to look down but his head just fell off in his lap.

Straight after that I felt very yuck and turned away in almost horror. I couldnt understand why I had done what I had done and I woke up before really seeing anything else.

Anyway I hope he is ok. lol. Because the dream was pretty vivid and just one of those dreams that makes you worry kinda. And I dont dream like that much anymore, and I was quite shocked when I did.

[Naomi]

Ha Kazahel you know the same night you and your son dreamed you were eating a t-rex I was having visions of being eaten by sharks? There is more to it, but too much to explain really. It was all good and wonderful. I love sharks, they take away all heavy dark stuff.

Well you know that shapeshifting thread I posted in with the pictures? Hee hee it was a t-rex shape I was trying to make, that is one of my favorite shapeshifting forms.

I like your signature too I think you are a good friend and very in tune with the oceans vibrations. What's your favorite shark god? Mine is Kane'ae.

So how's your friend? Maybe you were just killing his shell?

[Kazahel]

Hey thanks! I didnt know there was any shark Gods.. or more like I havent looked for any, but now I'm curious so I might have a suss later.

The friend in the last dream I will never know really because I wouldnt have a clue where he or anyone else he knows would be to even ask.

But the other dream with the beach I keep thinking about. Like the guy in that shark dream who was dying was an older man in his late 50's.. and I saw a picture of the three men who went missing on the news a few days later, and one of the men looked just like the guy who I was trying to save. Like I'm pretty sure it was him.

I also remember jumping off the boat later in my last dream that night onto a beach. And when I jumped off the boat I used the railing which was at the front of the boat, like I put my hands on it to use to jump over, And because the railing was high it made the fall to the shore moreso, and when I landed I fell over, which is why I started rolling around like a cat. I was almost embarrassed that I fell over but I was way too happy to be on the shore to care. Like anotherwords the crew of the boat laughed(in the fun of it all) briefly before they jumped off. Anyway what I noticed as well afterwards, was that the actual Kaz II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kaz_II.jpg) has the railing, just like the one I dreamt about.. And basically I'm pretty sure thats the boat.

So yeah.. I'm not sure what to say exactly but I really get the feeling that I dreamt of that boat, and what kinda happened to them.. and where they ended up.. Which was a very nice beach with the most wonderful clear blue water. Their were familys there playing, and the closest to me was wary but in a kind way. I cant word it well but it was known I wasnt staying.

But anyway.. I get the feeling the missing crew made it to a nice beach and they did so because they kinda gave their life for each other. Like I think they all died trying to save each other because they were friends, and I just get the feeling that was smiled upon because that love was higher than the fear of death.

Anyway I know that all sounds alittle crazy, but yeah.

[Naomi]

I don't think it's crazy at all, I've always had a strong connection to the ocean in trance work, especially during my childhood years, I was very heavy into ocean astral travel when I was 9-15. I was all about fish, sharks and dolphins for a good 5 years there. In my experience, oceanic work tends to be more lucid, memorable and even has a slightly dark or dangerous feel to it, possibly due to our own ineptness as humans in the water. It sounds to me like you simply had a real experience of seeing your higher self in action. We are certainly not bound by our fleshy forms during sleep.

There's many shark gods, most of them are benevolent and they hail from the Pacific Island natives. There's a great children's book called Shark God:

"In an idyllic island paradise, two native kids save a shark that's become stranded in the shallows near their home, but just moments later they offend their hardhearted king and are condemned to death. Their parents beg for mercy but to no avail, and when even their neighbors refuse to help, they're forced to enlist some very unusual aid: Kauhuhu, the terrifying, shape-changing Shark God."

- Amazon.com

I told my sister Elisa when she went to Hawaii to finish her master's degree that she had better say hi to the shark god....always make friends with the biggest meanest and scariest local gods around I say....

What, does that make me a scary deity groupie? :laugh:

[Kazahel]

Hey I had another weird dream last night.. but I might also tell the one I had a few nights before it because it was in the same place. That one was a sharing dream though. lol

A few days ago I dreamt I was out the front of my old house at night time with two or three friends I havent seen for ages. We were about to go back out again to get drunk and I was just going home to get my dinner. Which was on a plate with a knife and fork.. it was like a yummy looking schnitzel with some peas and stuff which was brought out to me. And I was just standing out the front of my house about to eat it. And I was hungry. Then my friends said that they were hungry and that it looked nice, so I offered it to them but only if they all cut it nicely and not just rip my dinner apart with their hands. So they shared it nicely with my knife and fork. And I just thought that I would get something to eat later, but I was worried that I didnt actually eat anything while they were eating because we were all going to go get drunk afterwards and that was the only reason we were there in the first place.

Anyway last night I dreamt I was in the same place but it was day time and I was trying to mix up some red paint.. like I was sucking it up from a paint can with a syringe and getting ready to inject it. It wasnt filling up very easily and I was like tapping it to get it to run down when my mother came along, so I had to hide the syringe which I did by just hiding it in my hand hidden by the wrist. So I talked to her while mainly thinking about what I was about to do, which made me realise what I was about to inject! Like it was red paint ffs. lol. And so then I pulled out the syringe in the open and squirted the paint onto the paper which I had down and was drawing on. Like I pretended that I wasnt going to shoot it up and that I was just going to draw with it in a artistic way. lol. And then she walked away to garden again and I was just thinking how I couldnt believe I was about to shoot it up while at the same time thinking she had gone and nows my chance. And I just looked really closely at the stuff in a confused way. Like it looked like when you mix up a E almost so it looked usable, and I was just confused because a part of me knew it was paint but another part of me knew it was a drug to use. And I dont really remember much more.

[Naomi]

lol ...was it blood? ;)

[Kazahel]

Nah more like paint or ink. Like I sucked it up from a can of it.. like from a 1ltr can that you'd get from a hardware shop. Thats why I didnt care when I squirted it out because I knew I had lots left. It was blood looking in colour but it came out of a can and had the thickness like ink or paint. The colours though when they went on the paper were brighter, like bright orange and not like what I first was sucking up. It was weird. It was like the paint that I dream of sometimes that I'm covered with. Same stuff.

[Naomi]

I had a weird dream once, like hmmm, 3-4 years ago during autumn I think. I was leaning over a dead tree in a graveyard and getting screwed silly by dude with pitch black skin and elf ears. Everything was all grey and misty and spooky.

I remember I got really spooked after that because I was left all alone for a week, and everything looked surreal. (The dream didn't scare me though) kids were over at their grandparents and Tengu was at Tai Kai up in Atlanta, and it was just like that song by Shivaree, Goodnight Moon. I think I spent the whole week on the phone with my friend Chris/Aphextwinsss just listening to him talk so I wouldn't freak out.

[Kazahel]

The graveyard thing is something to do hey. I like the serpent avatar btw.. it reminded me of a dream I had ages ago.. I'm not sure I've ever told it but it was one of the first times I dreamt about serpents. I was about 16 maybe.. and I dreamt that I was lying on a jetty with both my hands on either side of the jetty in the water. I had my arms in the water and I had what I thought was two dolphins playing with my hands. It felt like I was patting their noses and I didnt look at them because I was relaxing. Anyway then my hands hurt and I jumped up to find two big black sea snakes biting the webbing between the thumb and the first finger. They had both latched on and were filling me with poison and it was horrible because they were so alive.. and I couldnt get them off very easily because I had one on each hand. It was pretty scary and I ended up just looking for a hospital to go to.

It's funny how they seem to like the hands.

[Naomi]

That is funny Kazahel. I don't know, the first time I got bit by a snake in a dream - it felt so great I havn't really been afraid of that, but then, I kinda was raised with no fear of cobras at least on the Hindu parts of my life experience.

In some societies, you can only get access to certain abilities by being bitten by a snake. I would imagine that the significance of the space between the thumb and forefinger in yoga would be worth looking into, if you were really curious.

[Kazahel]

Yeah I was freaked out when I got bitten though because I couldnt get them off and they were just pumping poison in like it was a mission. And they were big.. like the head was at least the size of my hand, and like a pythons and very slippery, and its body was as thick as your arm and maybe 2mtrs long. So yeah it was scary and nothing like the rainbow serpents.. those ones were like lovers. Anyway I should look into the hand thing one day when I'm not feeling lazy. lol

I had part two it seems of my colour dream. Like I dreamt the other night I had sucked up a full 1ml syringe of green liquid to use(much thinner than the red)and because it was so full I couldnt jack it back easily. So it was a messy shot and because I was stretching I wasnt sure if I had hit the vein or missed it, but I remember thinking it didnt matter too much and that if I missed it would work anyway but just slower. So I pushed the full syringe into my arm and I mustve missed the vein alittle because I had a lump there afterwards which I just tried to push down with my hand. When I was doing that I noticed my arm was tattood again with patterns which were like little diamonds all connected together to look almost like scale armour or something.. It reminded me of those german style windows they have, and my skin was a very faint green colour but almost sickly, but it looked really cool with the thin black diamonds which covered my arm. It was just like a tattoo but because my skin had changed colour alittle to green it gave a really cool effect.

So yeah that was weird.. I just wish I remember who gave me the green drugs and syringe in the first place. lol. I tell ya I must have some seedy dream characters hanging around me or something. And I give in so quickly hey. lol.. I mean I'm even greedy ffs. It's kinda fun to be honest.

[Naomi]

lol...yeah I... have similar problems..... Those sound like really cool spirit dreams though, thanks for sharing. It sounds like a powerful anointed style dream - even with the scary serpents, which seems to be part of such phenomenon.

Do you ever get dragon dreams as well?

[Kazahel]

Do you ever get dragon dreams as well?

Nah I've never seen a dragon in a dream. I dreamt more about wolves before.

[deviadah]

Last night I had a dream that felt significant, and it is difficult to explain in its abstract nature but basically this happened:

An old man was climbing a hill that turned into a mountai,n till finally he was hanging on for dear life so he wouldn't fall down. I hurried to help. The landscape was covered in snow, which I swam through.

Then suddenly the snow melted. But to my joy beneath the snow of the old man there was a hill so he had steady ground. I was hoping the melting snow would reveal ground beneath me too, but there was none and I fell down into a shaft.

I ended up in a cave/basement, where I found an old notebook I had once owned (although not in reality). In the dream I discovered some ideas in the notebook I found that I had forgotten about.

Sadly I can't recall any of them when I woke up to the sound of my phone. It was work, and I was late...

Fuck, the obligations of society ruined a secret-to-be-revealed...

[Kazahel]

I had what felt like a different dream last night too..

I dreamt last night that I was on a boat(inside it)I think.. or somewhere with wooden walls.. I dont remember much of the dream except that I killed about five people. It was one of those dreams where it feels like I'm someone else.. Anyway I killed the people on the top floor who I think were parents because the next two that I killed were children. Which sounds horrible and it was kinda..(but it wasnt fully me so I didnt have the emotions)..Anyway they were sleeping on the floor in the walking area with blankets and pillows.. there were two kids who looked indonesian and were only about 4yrs old... and so I just stood on their necks really hard and twisted my foot to snap them.. which was pretty horrible and I did it with such force it was very quick, so I killed the last two like that, one after another, but it was more of a casual kill because I was just walking past and didnt spend any longer on them. Like I was super cold hey, I dont usually dream of doing that kinda thing.. But I just had to kill everyone in the area because it was like my job. So I did it quickly. But I dont really remember now how I killed the first lot.. I only remember knowing I had killed a few before killing the sleeping children.

So yeah... I think I killed everyone on a indonesian boat or something. But I dont think the boat was at sea.. I think it was moored but I'm not sure.. it just felt like I was inside a boat, which was setup like a target. I dreamt heaps more before that though.. but I only really remember the.. more disturbing part because I woke up soon after.

I cant believe I did that though... But it was like me but not me(I think I was indonesian too)...

[Naomi]

Do you ever think sometimes you are recieving thoughts from a splinter aspect of your soul group?

I don't seem to ever get any dreams where I don't feel like myself, either that or I just discard them. That's a cool scary dream Kazahel....how horrible.

[Kazahel]

I dont know about the soul group thing.. I've never really thought about it in that way. So I dunno. And it was horrible.. kinda. Like I have never thought about standing on a neck before and breaking it without even using hands. And I dont know where that came from hey... but at the time it just seemed like a silent, stealthy and quick way to kill(only because the neck was small). It was like I was a hitman or something..or police, in black with boots. And it was like I was keeping my hands at the ready and so I killed the children with my feet as I walked past because it was better than bending down to actually break their necks with my hands and maybe losing balance.. Thats why I used my feet... because I didnt want to be in a bad stance by bending down. Which is a weird thought even for me hey, I didnt want to waste any time with them because I wasnt there for them, so I was as quick as I could be, and after the second child I moved on as if searching for other adults before I woke up. So it was like the children were only in the way and were killed to keep things quiet and to not alert anyone else.

They might of been african too... I got the impression they were indonesian but their hair was cut really short like african. So I dunno. But yeah.. forgive me for being such a meanie in my dreams everyone.. I swear it wasnt me.. I was someone else! :o

[Naomi]

No judgement from me Kazahel....all is illusion anyways, and dreams are just dreams....

If it makes you feel better, I'm a total slut in my dreams! Sometimes I'm not even asleep! :P

[Kazahel]

Hey thanks, thats good to know about not being judged. And your.. dreams sure sound interesting.

[The Tengu]

Okay, so there are two dreams.

Dream 1: I'm running around the outdoor range at the po-po school playing real-life Counter-Strike with real guns. All of a sudden I turn the corner and I notice a guy that was in my class sitting in the grass eating a fucking huge-ass gordita from Taco Smell. Dude looks at me and goes, "Aw. Dude. I'll be right back!" and he gets up and runs off real goofy-like, leaving this huge (like 2' tall) gordita standing in the grass. All of a sudden everyone on both teams just starts busting caps at this huge honkin gordita until finally someone tags it real good and the damn thing explodes all over the place. I mean, there was lettuce and sauce and guacamole and bread and shit all over! It was so goddamned ridiculous that I started laughing my ass off in my sleep and woke up Naomi, who kept asking me what was so funny while I continued laughing like a hyena.

Dream 2: Not really one dream. My ex-boss from my first IT job keeps popping up in my dreams. Either I'm working for him, or I'm bitching him out, or whatever. Hell, I had one dream where I kept thinking, "Wow I hope he doesn't realize that I don't work for him anymore..." This fucker won't leave me alone, and neither will his goddamned biblethumping wife... I mean, in dreamland. Not IRL.

I think I should just put both dreams together and put my ex-boss on the losing team, and give him a gordita for a head.

Suggestions? Comments?

[Kazahel]

I had a strange dream this morning.. I dreamt I was walking through still water which had filled a room up to almost waist high. I cant remember much at all but I remember I was with two other people who I think was my twin sister and my mother. They were trying to get something which was in this room and I was looking out more and was telling them we should not worry about it because I was watching an invisible fish instead, which was living where we had wandered. It showed itself to me just enough at first for me to see it and it was around a foot long maybe.. It looked almost like a catfish because it had two whiskers but the whole thing was pretty much invisible at first and it looked like the sand which was on the floor, so it was just swimming around my legs watching me, and I was watching it so I didnt tread on it later because it was hard to see.

Anyway I was trying to get the others attention on this fish because it was pretty cool, but they kept saying they couldnt see it which was getting alittle frustrating. But then the fish swam much higher and not so close to the sand, and as it did that it went slowly fully visible(with almost sunlight or something), it started at the head and when it hit the tail it had made scales which were a very bright light orange. So the whole fish was white with bright orange scales, and it swam as if to show itself off.. and for me to follow I think. Anyway so I said to the people there that surly they had seen it now, but I cant remember their answer. I dont think they were sure they had seen it.

But yeah.. it was a trippy dream because I dont dream of fish that much(not like that one).. this fish was very pretty.. It looked like a white koi with bright orange scales.. but it could camouflage by going completely invisible.

[m1thr0s]

http://abrahadabra.com/images/buddhisteye.jpg

Buddhist Eye

I have no idea why they call this image the Buddhist Eye and it probably doesn't have squat to do with your dream...still...came to mind...

Vesica Piscis strikes again...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Who's "they"?

[m1thr0s]

I don't know...it's from a book about mandalas from around the world or something...had it saved to my hard drive so I can't recall particulars...

cool image though...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Yeah, I get the feeling now your hard drive is just fully of strange triangles.

This one is definately really weird. 12 body fins, 18 points total. Hmmmmm.

I just realized I've been posting all of my dreams in the wrong thread. Now I guess I don't feel bad nobody bothered interpreting them. ^_^

[Kuroyagi]

Ok I'll go first. Weird dream I had a couple of days ago: the setting was a little castle or rather residence 19th century style with a garden. Naomi Chan (the poster on this forum) was there too. I told her to dress properly and she did, (19th cen style) a yellow dress...no offence, but I said that she is (to be) "a house maiden"...nonetheless, we both attended some sort of conference that was held in the house, the organiser of it was my dad...and we had Putin as a guest, who is somehow connected to our family...but the content of it was not state business but informal chit chat...now the Naomi was also sitting there and I knew that she was about to address Putin concerning some world business in relation to a secret order she and I belonged to, but I didnt want her to do it because I knew that in this setting it would be fruitless...but knowing her, its fuitile to try to hold her back, so I was waiting uncomfortably till shed make her move and when she did Putin was taken back a bit but then ignored her, my dad was mad at her and me and I was embarassed...after the conference me and Putin were smoking together outside the room, (talking in German cause hes good in that language) and he said: cigs in pink packages are idiotic (I smoked them) and also he introduced me to his son who was a child and attended German elite school in Moskow (in real life Putins got two daughters, who attend this school)....we also somehow worked some things out but I cant remember them...twas idiotic...

A bit a weird and maybe boring dream...but since Naomi said that shed had a dream about me coupla days ago I posted it...

[Naomi]

cool

I've never dreamed about you Kuroyagi so this was a curious one:

I'm lying in a dark room at night (it was daytime here, I was taking a nap with/during little ones naptime cuz they were going to a party)

Kuroyagi is next to me in bed (it's not like that, we were just chilling) and I'm like "Awww hi Kuroyagi I havn't seen you in a long fucking time!" and THEN we went into the laundry room - at my grandmother's old house - a Frank Lloyd Wright house, very modern with designer stone floors in Japanesque style. So I show Kuroyagi my throat, which is colored blue and there is a midnight colored poison seeping up into my veins from my throat and he takes some water and helps me wash it off. Then I gave him a hug and a smooch and said "OK!" and he says "See you later Naomi." then I woke up.

the end

Also I just remembered a strange dream I had earlier this year. Like in January. Do you remember when we were not getting along very well on the forums (to everybody)? Well I had a dream I was on a beautiful jungle island beach, at noon and walking along, and there was a big path leading into a circle clearing - like a jungle crop circle. Many people from the forums were there, including Danisty, Doh, Shedemonwolf, Kain, Lucian, Anibis (I glowered at him) and m1thr0s, who I didn't even look at because I was SO MOTHERFUCKING ANGRY about being there in this huge group of people and I took out my machete and started hacking the shit out of the jungle trying to find a way into the jungle BY MYSELF and Anibis came up to me, put a hand on my arm and said "No stop that, you need to come over here, pointing back at the circle where all of the people were and m1thr0s just stared at me and I was like "HUH?" and I turned right around and stalked down the beach, where I sat in some tidal pools.

weird huh? yeah

I don't usually dream about people. Every 5 months I have a dream about Sebastian Heller where we just sit on the beach and talk about stuff and taking over the world. That's normal though. We have the hardline Vishnuvian linkup.

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[Naomi]

Ok I'll go first. Weird dream I had a couple of days ago: the setting was a little castle or rather residence 19th century style with a garden. Naomi Chan (the poster on this forum) was there too. I told her to dress properly and she did, (19th cen style) a yellow dress...no offence, but I said that she is (to be) "a house maiden"...nonetheless, we both attended some sort of conference that was held in the house, the organiser of it was my dad...and we had Putin as a guest, who is somehow connected to our family...but the content of it was not state business but informal chit chat...now the Naomi was also sitting there and I knew that she was about to address Putin concerning some world business in relation to a secret order she and I belonged to, but I didnt want her to do it because I knew that in this setting it would be fruitless...but knowing her, its fuitile to try to hold her back, so I was waiting uncomfortably till shed make her move and when she did Putin was taken back a bit but then ignored her, my dad was mad at her and me and I was embarassed...after the conference me and Putin were smoking together outside the room, (talking in German cause hes good in that language) and he said: cigs in pink packages are idiotic (I smoked them) and also he introduced me to his son who was a child and attended German elite school in Moskow (in real life Putins got two daughters, who attend this school)....we also somehow worked some things out but I cant remember them...twas idiotic...

A bit a weird and maybe boring dream...but since Naomi said that shed had a dream about me coupla days ago I posted it...

I know I hate yellow dresses. My mother sent me this outrageous yellow and black number with leopards on it. She has horrible taste like Coco Chanel....UGH... I only wear it in the garden when I tan or water because I don't care about getting it wet and dirty, and sundresses are easy to throw off and on for nude covert sunbathing.

You make me wear UGLY YELLOW DRESSES!!!! :laugh:

:dull:

[Kuroyagi]

No just as you wish (this part we talked "astrally" btw, menaing you simply changed form etc..direct communication)...wearing designer clothes for gardening is hip!...the cool thing about good clothes and well good anythings is that the more theyre fucked up the cooler they can look...acquiring patina...I for example despise the car brand Rolls Royce cause its chou (jap. for: super) parvenu..yet if I were presented with one the first thing Id do is to drive it with high speed over a muddy road, cause if it looks new its even worse...but I didnt want to say this, rather I wanted to post one of my fav. dreams I had maybe two tears ago..since I dont interpret dreams as Ive said. This quote reminded me of it:

Well I had a dream I was on a beautiful jungle island beach

Its very easy to desribe. Imagine a small planet in size between the earth and our moon, but still vast if youre human sized. It is covered with only two things: bronze coloured very fine sand and very blue azure coloured water, the sky is light blue or whiteish blue, the sun shines there are no clouds at all. There are beaches oceans dunes etc allmade up of these materials in these colours. I projected there and I alone was the only living being on this whole planet, not even a microorganism was there...it was incredibly beautiful. I played around a bit and then I even thought that I had spoiled it somehow with my aliveness, like a virus, spolied paradise..but I didnt feel bad about it...I love that place you know...first felt it out, held it in my "hand"...its very comforting..

I never dream of the forum members, or very rarely- once or twice of Nalyd (at OF times) and about Naomi a couple of times since I didnt understand her well and wanted to check her a bit...maybe a few others but I cant remember now, or dont care...at that time two years ago I was very lucid and developed much dream magic etc...nowadays I dont do it anymore...or not so often...

[deviadah]

I just had one of those epic action-packed dreams. I actually feel fatique now... I won't go into detail because it is a very long dream, but I'll write the end because it is so weird.

I'm walking down the street and I notice a police car. Inside I can see two officers that aren't in uniform and look like rednecks kinda. They start following me, harassing me. So I get scared and call 911 and a large bus crash into the cop car, and two real cops come out of the bus. I never have a chance to understand why the cops were driving the bus and the rednecks the cop car, because I was too busy - at this point - hiding narcotics in the grass.

Also the whole dream had that summer/dew/drizzle kind of weather feel...

[deviadah]

I have had several nightmares recently, but not the ones where you wake up screaming. Only a bit unpleasant.

The most vivid memory is one where I climb up on the roof of a house and look down. Below me I see another house and the top balcony - where a mass murderer (Dahmer, Jack the Ripper - take your pick) is standing. He has just killed a whole family. I do not see the blood or the victims. I can just feel in my soul what he has done, and he looks at me...

:possessed:

[Kazahel]

I had a cool flukey dream experience thing the other day I might share, because I think its trippy..

I dreamt sometime last weekend that I was running on land(like a man would run)at night time outside, and the wind blew strongly(I was heading into the wind)so that it got under me and made me fly a few meters straight up. I found myself hovering in the wind which made me go lucid in the dream. So I wasnt lucid first, I went lucid after I was picked up by the wind while I was running.

After I went lucid I wanted to fly to another place(America) so that I could show them myself. I used the wind to take me up very high and I flew through storm clouds high over the ocean wanting to head towards America but not seeing anything. lol. It wasnt scary but it was. Lightning was coming down all around me and I wanted to catch it because I thought that wound be a cool trick to do in a lucid dream. But I couldnt tell where the lightning was going to strike so I didnt give it anymore thought.

Then I wanted to see if I could see the new continent and I could see city lights just coming on the horizon through the cloud. So I thought for a moment about landing but soon as I did that I started to plummet down to earth because I had lost the wind(that happens to me when I fly sometimes lol). I felt like a rock hey and when I realised I wasnt going to crash on land I shuddered because I knew I was going to hit the ocean at night, and I really dont like that scene. And my last memory was seeing the water and knowing I was about to hit it, so I turned my left shoulder so that it hit the water first because I really didnt want to go swimming. And I woke up pretty soon after I think because I guess I freaked out or lost my lucidity. I dunno.

Annnnyway... This is what I found posted alittle later somewhere.. which happened over the same weekend I think. Which I'll include in this post because I found it quite a fluke and interesting I guess. So if you listen to over half way through that movie thing on the link they comment on my favorite colours. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=5626299 (http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=5626299)

And no I am not a compulsive liar. :) *sigh*

[deviadah]

I had a strange dream last night where I was a black man, and my best friend was a white Swan! It really puzzles me!

:mconfused: