The Illuminati Hierarchy

[Okazaki Castle]

The most accurate description of the Illuminati Hierarchy ever available to the public


The leader of the Earths Illuminati is called the "Pindar". The Pindar is a member of one of the 13 ruling Illuminati families, and is always male. The title, Pindar, is an abbreviated term for "Pinnacle of the Draco", also known as the "Penis of the Dragon". Symbolically, this represents the top of power, control, creation, penetration, expansion, invasion, and fear. The holder of this rank reports to the purebred Reptilian leader in the inner Earth.

Recently, there are reports that the Marquis de Libeaux is the Pindar, but this is disinformation. The true current Pindar is the head of the Rothschild family, as has been for several hundred years. He is based in Germany near Frankfurt. In the late 1970s, he oversaw the sister project to Montauk, called M.A.L.D.A. is an anagram for Montauk-Alsace-Lorraine Dimensional Activation. This project was located near the city of Strasbourg, France, historically once part of Germany.

Interestingly, there is a winery on the east end of Long Island, not far from Montauk Point, called Pindar Vineyards. This wine is growing in popularity, gaining international accolades. This fits nicely into the plan, as this area will be a part of the capital district of the Earth/United Nations in the Empire State! Red wine is symbolic of the blood ingested by the Reptilians. The wine can become sanctified as it did in the Roman Catholic Church, a patsy for the Reptilians. In the Catholic Church, wine replaced the blood in ceremony.

The Illuminati here on Earth have established a pyramid structure of control identical to the system that exists in the Draco Empire. The pyramid with the Reptilian eye, located on the American one-dollar bill, is symbolic of this control structure. The eye is the cap on the pyramid, thus explaining why the original surface of the Great Pyramid in Egypt was capped in solid gold.

The Pindar is represented by the gold cap on the pyramid. The next layer, or "eye", on the pyramid represents the 13 ruling families. They are as follows:

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Rothschild (Bauer or Bower) - Pindar
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Bruce
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Cavendish (Kennedy)
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De Medici
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Hanover
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Hapsburg
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Krupp
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Plantagenet
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Rockefeller
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Romanov
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Sinclair (St. Clair)
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Warburg (del Banco)
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Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gothe)

Each of the 13 ruling families is given an area of the Earth and/or a particular function to fulfill on the Earth. These particular functions include global finances, military technology/development, mind-control, religion, and media.

Each of the 13 ruling families has a Council of 13 as well. The number, 13, has great significance to them. They know that there are 12 types of energies that pass through the 10 aspects of God-Mind. The totality of the 12 energies equals a 13th energy. This is considered the most powerful knowledge.

They also know that there are really 13 Zodiac signs, not the commonly acknowledged 12. They have kept the 13th hidden for centuries because it is the sign of the Dragon. They keep the qualities and traits of this sign secret to avoid giving away clues to the Reptilian mind-pattern.

The next layer is the second-in-command families who do the support work for the Pindar and 13 ruling families. While all of the 13 ruling family members are shape-shifters, all members of the 300 supporting families are not. They do, however, all have a high percentage of Reptilian DNA.

They are known as the "Committee of 300".These families include such notable names as Agnelli, Balliol, Beale, Bell, Bouvier, Bush, Cameron, Campbell, Carnegie, Carrington, Coolidge, Delano, Douglas, Ford, Gardner, Graham, Hamilton, Harriman, Heinz, Kuhn, Lindsay, Loeb, Mellon, Montgomery, Morgan, Norman, Oppenheimer, Rhodes, Roosevelt, Russell, Savoy, Schiff, Seton, Spencer, Stewart/Stuart, Taft, and Wilson. There are many others.

The Committee of 300 use many well-known institutions to accomplish their goals, including the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderburgers, Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Royal Institute for International Affairs, Mafia, CIA, NSA, Mossad, Secret Service, International Monetary Fund, Federal Reserve, Internal Revenue Service, and Interpol, to name a few. All of these are private organizations or corporations set up as public service devices, but this is far from the truth.

The Illuminati structure also creates artificial countries to further their goals. Examples of these are the United States, Switzerland, Kuwait, the Soviet Union, Panama, Israel, Italy, Yugoslavia, the United Kingdom, most of Black Africa, all of the Arab countries, and all of Central and South America. These nations were created to amass wealth for the ruling families and their supporters, to hide or keep their wealth, and to create unstable conditions necessary to start wars or increase military budgets.

Switzerland was created as a neutral banking centre so that Illuminati families would have a safe place to keep their funds without fear of destruction from wars and prying eyes.

The United States was established with 13 colonies, one for each of the Illuminati families. The original flag had 13 stars, and still has 13 stripes. The eagle, the symbol of the United States, holds 13 arrows in its talons. The United States is actually a corporate asset of the Virginia Company that was established in 1604 in England with direct involvement of the Rothschilds. The finances of the Rothschilds were necessary to fund the exploration and exploitation of the North American continent.

The assets of the Virginia Company, including the United States, are owned by the Holy Roman Empire via the Vatican. This occurred in 1213 when King James gave all English assets to the Reptilian Pope. Executorship remains with the British royal family, but actual ownership lies with the Roman Catholic Church.

The United States of America is not named after Amerigo Vespucci, as you learned in school. The Illuminati would never name a continent, actually two continents, after an Italian mapmaker. The name is actually a combination of words.

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"Am" is the Hebrew word for "people"
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"Ame" is also the command form of the Spanish/Latin verb "to love"
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"Eri" or "ari" is a Hebrew term for "lion"
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"Rica" is the feminine form of the Spanish word for "rich"
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"Ka" is the ancient Egyptian word for soul, or spirit force within a body

There are two layers of meanings. The Ancient Hebrew/Egyptian translates to say,

"the people of the lion with spirit force"

Hence, the pyramid and all-seeing eye on the one-dollar bill. The Latinized version translates to say, "love riches", in a feminized/physical reality way. This gives an idea of what they had in mind.

Take this a step further, and one sees the mixture of the feminine Latin/eagle ideas with the masculine Hebrew/lion ideas. The symbolic statement of America is that it is a combination of Lemuria and Atlantis; a blend of the human/Lyrae with Reptilian/Draco. Perhaps the anagram LSD, an Illuminati created drug, has a hidden meaning as well: Lyrae-Sirius-Draco!



The combination of these three civilizations would produce the most powerful, technological Empire ever known!



In 1776, the creation of the United States as an independent nation coincided with the declaration into public existence of the official Illuminati organization by member Adam Weishaupt, in Bavaria. Publicly, Mr. Weishaupt appeared to be determined to create an organization comprised of the European elite that would uplift mankind.

Of course, this was part of an Illuminati global ceremony. The creation for the United States and the Illuminati global ceremony. The creation of the United States and the Illuminati organization were artificial beginnings for public consumption. The United States was the device to be used to bring the Illuminati into public acceptance. Current Illuminati members believe that Adam Weishaupt was a look-alike for George Washington, and it is actually Weishaupts image that appears on the one-dollar bill.

George Washington was a wealthy slave and plantation owner. He is known to have raped some of his female slaves and used some of the male slaves in ritualistic ceremony. There are many people of the Black race who can literally trace their genetics to the founding fathers. George Washington also ordered the building of the Montauk Lighthouse in 1796. This lighthouse included an underground area for supply storage in case of a British coastline invasion. If he had only known what that area would become - or did he?

The 13 ruling Illuminati families constantly vie for control amongst themselves. During this time period, the Spanish, British, and French Illuminati all fought to win control over North and South America. The Rothschilds kept these Illuminati factions in line by sending Hessian troops to monitor the situation. The leaders enjoyed these war games, pitting one against the other to see who would win. The hundreds of thousands of lives lost were meaningless to them.

The Manifest Destiny of the United States was created to expand the territory of the Aryans at the expense of the native populations. As always, the Illuminati seek to destroy native peoples and their cultures. This is an attempt to destroy their knowledge of God-Mind, as well as the possibility that the natives will impart this information on to others. Especially important is their need to eliminate native cultures with ancient knowledge of Atlantis and Lyrae.

The natives that gave them the most problem were the Cherokee Indians because this tribe retained most of their Atlantean knowledge, even accessing the Bear/Bigfoot frequency for information. For this reason, these people were uprooted from their homeland in the southern Appalachian Mountains, and forcibly marched to Oklahoma on what is now known as The Trail of Tears. Many died along the way. Only a remnant remained in North Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia. In the north, the vast Iroquois/Mohawk nation was disbanded. The Montauk, direct descendents of the Atlanteans who call their leader Pharaoh, were systematically eliminated.

The Rothschilds were aggressively involved with the slave trade from Africa, importing slaves to North and South America as well as the Caribbean. They were very careful not to import Blacks from the eastern areas of Ethiopia or Sudan where the descendents of Solomon were located, instead concentrating on western and central Africa for the slave populations. These areas had the pure mixture of Anunnaki and simian genetics, and the programming desirable for the Illuminati agenda.

The Rothschilds decided that splitting the United States colonies would double their profits. So they politically created, and financially supported, the Civil War. The Civil War was actually a global ceremonial ritual to bring slavery to its next level. This war allowed the North to win, and publicly abolish slavery. The best slaves are the ones who do not realize that they are slaves. This alleviates rebellion and resistance. This was the status immediately following the Civil War. Blacks in the South are still slaves. There is still segregation, even in the North. The Illuminati still consider Blacks to be second or third class citizens. Only now the slavery is subtle and masked.

Since the Civil War, there have been other staged wars that entrenched the trend toward globalization. The Spanish-American War of 1898-1899 acquired more land for the American Illuminati, placing a greater portion of the Earth’s surface under American jurisdiction. World War I was designed to change the map of Europe as well as test germ and chemical warfare technology for future use. This coincided with the worldwide influenza outbreak designed to reduce the global population, making control easier. World War I also laid the foundation for the German role in the next war.

World War II was a test of the final globalization and extermination projects. It was also designed to test mind-control machinations; to test the use of fluoride which deadens brain activity and slows resistance to authority; to experiment with slave labor camps and study the development of resistance; and to teach the masses to spy and report on one another.

World War II brought three primary goals of the Illuminati to fruition.

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The first was that hidden Illuminati symbolisms were brought to public attention from the underground strongholds in Tibet and Egypt, such as the Swastika and the ankh.
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The second was the creation of the State of Israel as a foundation for the New World Religion.
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The last was the creation of nuclear weapons as part of the Illuminati global ceremony.

During World War II, the Germans helped to perfect "sex-slaves" as a means of transmitting information amongst the elite. Sex-slaves can be either male or female, who are sexually programmed using Wilhelm Reich procedures, which are illegal in the United States, but used by the Illuminati and government.

These sex-slaves deliver messages and keep programmed sleepers in line. The sex-slave is downloaded with a message or function through various sexual acts and drugs, which can only be released by repeating the same sexual act with the target, or person, to be activated. They are trained to know their target’s trigger words and trigger events to activate, delete, or change programming.

In recent years, several women have come forward claiming to be the sex-slaves of globally recognized political figures. Many were used as information couriers between high-level male Illuminati. Usually, look-alikes of the political figures are used in the incipient programming as a focal point for the sex-slave. The slave is put through a desensitizing process, so there is no pleasure in the sexual act; it is merely a duty to be performed. Many times the slave becomes sexually promiscuous, repeatedly having sex with people who look like the intended target. It is a sad life.

By the end of World War II, one of the three major Illuminati global rituals was accomplished. This was the nuclear explosion that took place in 1945 at the 33rd parallel as a test for the nuclear attack on Japan. This explosion was symbolic, representing the simultaneous creation and destruction of matter and energy. The year was symbolic as well. In numerology, 1 + 9 = 10, representing the 10 aspects of God-Mind. The number 10 further breaks down to 1 + 0 = 1, representing a new beginning. Continuing, 4 + 5 = 9, representing the end of a cycle. Symbolically, the entire event represented the end of a cycle to prepare for a new beginning using the new creation of God-Mind out of destruction.

Additionally, a cylinder containing material still not explained by the government was trucked into the nuclear explosion testing. This cylinder was made from pure steel and allegedly was the same physical dimensions as the Kabala describes for the creation of Golems. Kabala is ancient Hebrew metaphysics that has been a staple for the Illuminati for millennia. Golems are artificial beings that are used as a slave force. It is highly probable that this was a symbolic ritual for the creation of the society of Golems.

World War II also allowed the European/American Illuminati to destroy the Japanese Illuminati desires of global domination. The Japanese royal family, represented by Emperor Hirohito, have always been ostracized as non-legitimate by the ruling 13 families. The Japanese claim to be direct descendents of Lemurian purebred Reptilians.

The European/American Illuminati claim that the Japanese Illuminati are descendents from a lower species in the Draco hierarchy. This lower species is considered a worker class without any political clout or influence. The European/American Illuminati also claim that East Indians are a lower species in the Draco hierarchy. The 13 ruling families consider light skin and hair to be an elite characteristic.

On January 17, 1994, Japan sent a seismic event to California. Exactly one year later on January 17, 1995, the city of Kobe, Japan was seismically destroyed. Kobe was the home of the Japanese electromagnetic weaponry centers. The European/American Illuminati will not tolerate thorns in their sides. The destruction of Japan and its royal family will continue in the coming months.

Every year, the Illuminati hold meetings to plan the events of the coming year to accomplish their main objective formulated millennia ago of global control and domination. In the 1850s, they pinpointed their target date for complete domination with an agenda called Plan 2000. This has since been revised to 2003. The fiasco election of George W. Bush Jr. to office is a key sign that they are on target. The public lesson of the United States presidential "election" of 2000 is that the citizens do not vote for anyone! Even the Illuminati are now finding it increasingly difficult to conceal their plans.

Original Research Creditation (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=315255&mpage=1&showdate=12/9/06)

Note the bit in Red. Kobe is also reknowned for being the Yakuza's main centre of operations. Kain Doshi, the immmortal Taosit Sennin who founded/created ninjitsu, is based there most of the time. The Japanese do, of course, view the rest of the world as simply weak and stupid. As regards the worldwide illuminati hierarchies we're going to crush them, and for the most part torture to death their leading members. As regards the rest of the world's people, we will rule them from Japan under The Jedi Order. The Zhedhi Order, the world's largest antichrist gate, was used to take control of The Illuminati's planned Antichrist World Domination NWO scheme - and was also the main reason I incarnated as a westerner since the battle of Sekigahara: align with their mindset, you see. Long term planning you see, westerners are typically quite bad at that...

Regards all,
Okazaki Kyoshiru.

[Okazaki Castle]

Various high-level Satanists who have escaped from the Illuminati by God's power (uh-huh, more Kain positioning them in this) were eyewitnesses to Satan appearing at the Rothchilds. They testified they witnessed Satan showing up at the Rothchilds as a very beautiful man who can shape shift, (at times his feet would be cloven hoofs). He wears a black tuxedo to gamble and play cards (winnings are sexual victims) & a white tuxedo when present just to socialize. He can also shape shift into a reptilian.

So who wants to meet the Illuminati's Satan? We're going to arrange that to see if he looks like Al Pacino.

As a sincere researcher, I must report that lots of info. about shape shifting reps has confrunted me in so many independent places in such a wide variety of historical periods that this bizarre topic must have some importance. I've withheld my findings for years, because I feel quite tentative about my results. David Icke gives details of this strange topic & his bold views in The Biggest Secret. - Fritz Springmeier (Bloodlines of the Illuminati).

Channeling is basically coming from satellites. 95% at least. It started in the mid sixties. This is part of a disinformation dissemination programme by the NSA so that people would believe that there were space brothers coming to save us and you wouldn't have to do anything and just wait until you went into the fourth and fifth dimensions and life would be good and wonderful. When in fact, it was a cleaver ploy to get you to just not do anything. The program is usually turned on when the person is sleeping and "down loaded" into their brain. Then when certain triggers are transmitted by ground transmission - the person goes into their act. - Stewart Swerdlow, a participant in the Montauk Project, both as a Montauk Boy and later as a supervisor. From the new CD The Philadelphia Experiment (the complete story).

There are no accidents, coincidences, or diseases. Every single thing that happens to you is carefully, meticulously planned and orchestrated by your soul. Distortion arises because the bi-polar condition of human consciousness perceives God's perfect will as good or bad. Separation is the gap between what Is and one's perception of what Is. On either side of man's fear-based perceptions of God's ever-perfect world lies pure, infinite love. - Bhayavan Sri Pranananda (Louix Dor Dempriey)

Regarding the riots in Los Angelos 1994 - it was an experiment to see what would happen if chaos existed in a large American city. They were successful at the experiment. What they were trying to determine was how would people react if it was announced there was an alien invasion. [the fear based frequencies were transmitted by radio]. [referring to the Montauk Project] It was also on these levels, I think level 7 [underground], where the deep programming for the sleepers was carried out [on kidnapped street kids]. The sleepers were people being programmed for a future time when a certain trigger would be provided and their function would be opened up whether that would be an assassin or as a political person or what ever the function had to be. - Stewart Swerdlow, a participant in the Montauk Project, both as a Montauk Boy and later as a supervisor. From the new CD The Philadelphia Experiment (the complete story).


Regards all,
Okazaki Kyoshiru.

[Okazaki Castle]

Oh and the Scalar tech isn't, and never properly was, located in Kobe. That was just dummy installations (which were nevertheless real) to fool the rest and encourage them to destroy them, so we could then return that karma to them. Like with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Kain Doshi stood at the epicentre of the Kobe blast and absorbed most of the force. He's a bit of a poser like that, but it is solidly magickally correct technique as it enables him to return it to them on a personal (ie not group kamra, instead he gets to choose his targets personally) basis.

The real scalar tech is, fairly obvious perhaps to some, based in the area of the Mibu Klan's stronghold: around, and behind, Nachi Falls. And also in the Kun Lun Shan, and in far western Tibet. Plus on The Moon, under the Nordics/Antareans, but that's where things get a bit Sci-Fi (but it basically summarizes as the Alien vs Predator films). We reveal that little bit of info now because we don't give a damn any longer, it's a done deal and a sealed/rigged Game henceforth. My hand fixed that up btw, which is kinda what I was hinting at when I said I prefer always to cheat. I do so by defining the Laws of Creation (or of a system, basically define the expression of gravity and its modulation) in a particular, tagetted way. Fine cheat, always works, tis what you base Power-of-God on and how you get it...

Regards all,
Oazaki Kyoshiru.

[YsetEternal]

I would post a comment oazaki, but I feel nothing need be said at the moment... no, actually think I will...

What happened? years ago you were on a tirade to destroy the illuminati, and here you are now, yet again with another posting about them? Have you like a fixation on these people? And why are they still around if they were to have been destroyed by you?

or have youre "goals" changed?

[Naomi]

Good stuff babe. I like that Reptilian Watch guy, he's cool and alla that.

Oh you know, when I was working with dear Genocyde on getting the thundercats through I planted a portal for them on the Hopi reservation, first mesa. They basically took over that whole area and the reptillians never figured out where the portal device was, so cleverly hidden it was...

So alla those ships flossin' over the NM/AZ deserts these days are cat hunter-killer ships and the exit portal there for the lizards is completely shut down there. LOLZ

A gift for the Hopi at the request of Angak, the great black panther...

[Naomi]

I would post a comment oazaki, but I feel nothing need be said at the moment... no, actually think I will...

What happened? years ago you were on a tirade to destroy the illuminati, and here you are now, yet again with another posting about them? Have you like a fixation on these people? And why are they still around if they were to have been destroyed by you?

or have youre "goals" changed?

Their power base was destroyed Yset. It's the aftermath now...

http://www.fortunecity.de/kraftwerk/goldi/326/Gallery/Covers/Aftermath.jpg

[Okazaki Castle]

Well, the main dillema was how to destroy them without collapsing the maintained reality of this planet into complete chaos and destruction. It's been a long path and I'm still working on it in a way (it's just that everything is pretty much on automatic at this stage). Some things have changed, main amongst them being that I've discovered that my other form, Kain Doshi (I split my being apart on the eve of the battle of Sekigahara and sent my central principle, me who's typing this, off to the west to incaranate there) pretty much controls most of the illuminati and uses them much as one would use chess pieces. That put me a bit of predicament, for how can one fight one's self - when one respects that self? Well, simple really: hit him with the Laws of Creation and see what comes out the other end. Needless to say, the illuminati have pissed me off immensely personally, because of their practices and other stuff, but maybe it was all necessary would be Kain Doshi's point. My pint is, fine, but I'll cut you for it anyway cuz nobody, but nobody, interferes with my plans and person as they have and gets away with it. Plus all the worldwide justice stuff, which after working on it for years and having the humans not give a damn, nor help, nor support - well, after that and more I don't see why I should treat them much better than the illuminati: they are less culpabale, because they are less repsonsible, but they can damn well take their cuts too, as they didn't help me out none in this process, and I got cut as a result. Plus many of them were actually holding opposing focuses to me, etc. So in practice, only tose who stood firm and helped out and came to me in some way, ie that I already prersonally know basically, get my 'free ticket out of 3rd density'. The rest get to pay for it in their pain, usffering, tears, sweat and so on - which hard work and sufferring is what they seem to need and believe in anyway, so everyone's happy in the real sense of things.

As to why I want to destroy the illuminati and thier hierarchies: personal reasons first and secondly in revenge for what they did to this world and society and the oppressive ways they set it up for the majorities.

So that about sums it up really. And I will prevail and they will fall. Because they are weak, and stupid, and misnamed (for they are unenlightened, properly speaking) and further they did not know or understand that the Dark is far, far more powerful than the light.

However, on a personal level, some of the world's peoples who I haven't personally met byet I do count as personal friends/allies, and they get my free ride out of here too. That is what ammounts to my Inner and Outer Circles really...

all the best Babs, and thx for asking ;)
Oazaki.

[Okazaki Castle]

Rock on da catZZ!!

bacci babes,
Seb.

[Amur]

I believe that ppl will awaken as planned and the shroud of illusion they've planted will be unveiled before everyones eyes. Which will naturally upset a great deal of people. Stinks quite a lot to be honest. Wtf are all these ppl doing here? :)

[Okazaki Castle]

Wtf are all these ppl doing here? :)

Fuck knows. They certainly don't belong most of them. Personally I want to deport the vast majority off-planet. Intergalactic slave trade or interstellar holidays, however they want to view it, dependent on if this world pays me in time...

Oaz.

[m1thr0s]

I don't buy any of this stuff myself. I think it's all just another mental mousetrap. Much ado about nothing...

I can't be bothered spending that much time rubbing my nose in other people's assholes frankly...

each to his own I guess.

m1thr0s

[Kain]

Various high-level Satanists who have escaped from the Illuminati by God's power (uh-huh, more Kain positioning them in this) were eyewitnesses to Satan appearing at the Rothchilds. They testified they witnessed Satan showing up at the Rothchilds as a very beautiful man who can shape shift, (at times his feet would be cloven hoofs). He wears a black tuxedo to gamble and play cards (winnings are sexual victims) & a white tuxedo when present just to socialize. He can also shape shift into a reptilian.

So who wants to meet the Illuminati's Satan? We're going to arrange that to see if he looks like Al Pacino.Hey Okazaki, care to elaborate on this?

Also, why do you deem this to be a discussion for the Satanism forum (I see this paragraph although apart from this sighting nothing much on Satanism nor Satan is said)? To me it looks like it's closest fit would be "Left Hand Path" in general, or something similar.

Kain

[fr.novumorganum]

We also do not have a conspiracy forum, so I wonder if we really have room for this type of discussion at all.

[m1thr0s]

OT General is as good as it gets I think.
I'm not carving out any conspiracy forums though...there's the WWW for that...

m1thr0s

[silentjohn]

OT General is as good as it gets I think.
I'm not carving out any conspiracy forums though...there's the WWW for that...

m1thr0s


man m1thr0s lemme tell you, this ABRAHADABRA forum sure is a refreshing change of pace from say, oh, godlikeproductions.com

[m1thr0s]

danke...and I agree...:)

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

oh, as I've said before, we're way way better without

[m1thr0s]

moved to OTD...Satanism is flexible but not quite this flexible.

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Hey Sebastian what I really want to know is the off-planet hierarchy, like how they manage affairs in their other slave systems, for instance the "zeta" homeworlds and other worlds that arn't frontier (and disputed) property like earth.

Plus where we can find them and arrange a hunt if you like...

Hey Nancy is still working for the Zeta disinformation network! Omg check out this quote from her channels:

" SOZT
Diana was an embarrassment to the Queen, for many reasons. As a commoner, she did not have the undying respect the Queen expected from someone lift up by marriage to a Prince. Then there were the affairs, so very public and likely to become more so. Royalty does not need to be explicite in requesting someone meet their demise, they merely have to express extreme regret, with pointed references. The assassination was planned and carried out, no surprise to the many who have followed this story. Will the Queen ever be held to account? Not hardly. Nor will her handymen, who arranged all this, be prosecuted. Such is the reach of royalty in Britain, long standing.
EOZT"


lolz

[Amur]

Anyway, the most one can do to get off the mass-produced crap is to just do internal alchemy and work inside, works wonders on the outside also. If you don't want illuminati in your life, just stop believing in them and they will vanish like a puff of smoke. Works wonders.

Got shown yesterday how things really are and at the same time stopped believing in conspiracy crap. Of course this is all controlled from high above or down below. Not like all the powers could be given to humans looking at how messed up the planet is. Perhaps if the planet was clean and things went smoothly, the situation would be different.

All in all, most are here to experience what being a human really is. Don't think they even want to know. One thing is certain. The planet will survive, the humans living on it... I'm not so sure. No humans, no illuminati. In the end it might be good to be reminded that everyone is on their own path regardless of what they do. Hitler and co. united Europe. Stalin certainly helped russia go it's own way. Destruction breeds Creation. What else can one say. Good/Evil are just an illusion, if someone wants to get punched, just get over it and punch him then :laugh:

[Okazaki Castle]

Well, briefly, in terms of main stream conception of things, mainly thanks to Dan Brown, it is The Illuminati who dominate what the public view as 'Satanism'. Inaccurately of course as far as 'real' satanic practitioners are concerned, but still nevertheless the case as far as maintsream consciousness/awareness goes. Hence, in terms of the public image of Satanists / Luciferians this sort of thing does need to be addressed I think, primarily because what one aligns with and considers to be a part of one's being, such as one's philosophical or religious even outlook, becomes a part of one's self - at least in terms of other people's perceptions thereof. And so their interaction with who you are: which in practical terms ammounts to close to simply what they perceive and understand you to be from within their own conceptual space. Thus, as Kain said, these sorts of things do need to be considered for:

I think the most important thing that should be stated concerning Shielding, is that one must meticulously make sure not to leave any gaps or advantageous loopholes in one's conscious understanding and representation of Self. (my bold)

Beyond that, I can appreciate that this is a sensitive topic, and let us not forget that the illuminati, if they did exist, would prbbly have very significant PSI shielding and manipulation devices in place themselves to prevent anybody from criticizing or attacking them. The solution there is simply to duck, I think... Which kinda fits in to what I was planning to do around now anywayz...

all the best.
Oazaki.

[Kuroyagi]

If some occultists would only read a general introduction in psychology and look at the terms intra- and extrovert then there would be less bickering...I myself am (different to Oazaki) basically an introverted person (though this depends on the situation too: many of the most famous "celebs" are introverts so its not as easy as the public (non-)understanding of these terms would suggest) and I am not a very political man to begin with and thereby not too interested in these affairs, yet its artistically inspiring to me.

[Kain]

Hence, in terms of the public image of Satanists / Luciferians this sort of thing does need to be addressed I think, primarily because what one aligns with and considers to be a part of one's being, such as one's philosophical or religious even outlook, becomes a part of one's self - at least in terms of other people's perceptions thereof. And so their interaction with who you are: which in practical terms ammounts to close to simply what they perceive and understand you to be from within their own conceptual space. I see your point. However, this sort of argument innevitably is resolved through the victory of the highest resonance with Truth, as different outlooks towards reality hold different resonance intensities, thus being closer or farther to the "objective". This means that what is most important is one's own conscious representation rather than what others make of such a representation. Ignorance is what surrounds us all the time and innevitably our greatest enemy, yet like all "Gods Without", it's effect on us stays as long as we allow it to. As long as we act on it and redefine our own understanding and representation, it may remain in the eyes of others (because Ignorance is still affecting them) but it will not affect us anymore.

The battle of "successfully educating the masses" is a very real one none the less however, and I think it is equally important with the personal and even pioneer work some of us are occupied with. Both are needed for Ignorance to be successfully hunted down and erradicated in all it's forms, yet not all of us are cut out to do both and we each have our "battlfields of choice", so to speak...

Kain

[YellowJacket]

Fighting 'they' is a hard task. Try sniping the invisible man from 150 yards with a 9mm pistol and you got a pretty good idea.

On one hand you have violent revolution, on the other you can just withdraw your support. When you see the emperor with no clothes it becomes all too obvious how weak he really is. Titles and terror psychology aside they are just like any other gang, except more arrogant and lazy in most cases because they can just have it covered up.

Now whether Reptiles, thats a whole nother question. The problem with going full-out with the truth in anything is that most people need the truth in small doses, to gradually become acclimated to it. You change their reality too fast, or communicate on a level too high above them and they'll get vertigo, you might as well rip the ground out from under them.

All I know is that Bureaucrats aren't usually the best of the best, and with a little work you can turn them against one another, confuse them, or at least bribe them enough to get what you need. They have the ability to spin violence in the media on the local/regional level to their advantage quite well.

If were going to educate the masses we have to do it in every field. We have to give them the tools to motivate themselves, to interact with others, to interact with themselves. Also a think a lot of good would come from restoring the communal link.

:tnerd: *returns to hole*

[Anibis]

Yes, that makes sense YJ. Also, I would add to Kain's point that what is ultimately the key is one's level of resonance with the real, as it were. Although working on the self is the focal point of this effort, I would say that what happens is as you raise your own frequencey, there is a kind of lateral resonance which carries other beings with it. Imagine you are a crystal humming along to certain rythme. If that crystal is laid out in an array among other crystals, and there is no debris dampening their contact, they will all start to hum in unison will they not? Our task is therefor 2fold, in this respect. 1) increase ones own awareness sufficiently in order to be ablle to 2) clear debris (shells) which dampen the carrying of the harmonic across the 'array' (and also to free sufficent energy to assemble the componants of the array itsef (i.e. organize community structure etc..)). As one does this, then whichever part of the array is cleared is able to act as one being, returning us to 1), only on a higher scale. I'd say this process is analogous to Isaac Luria's 'Tikkun', and the sense of being able to will 'as one' with a community is analogous to the Qabalistic Idea of Adam Qadmon, or the Maatian notion of Na'ton.
-Ibisis

[Anibis]

The other part of this is related to 'Every Man and Every Woman is a Star'. As is pretty clear to anyone on this site, this has to many of us the meaning that what we are doing here is re-structuring the model of the soul, and translating it from a vertical/arboric model into a stellar model. In particular we are able to create a model of the soul based on the figure of the Magen star . THis does not replace the tree so much as sublate it. As every man and every woman is a star, we find ourselves 'crystalizing' as we probe deeper into this body of wisdom, and taking said form. The other interpretation which is equally true of the phrase"every man and woman is a star' is that we are actually all a single star. This is not to be under stood as being true 'more than' the idea that we are each individual stars, but rather has the profound implication that just as we each form our beings individually, those individually formed selves are capable of locking together fractally, that is , we are thelemicly compatible. Imagine a million star-souls, each an independent source of will, locking together as a fractal and forming a single star that can will as one, while retaining each individual star. This is totally feasible using Abrahadabra tech and is the key behind why, for example in the glyphic tarot I have designed (go here (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=2939&postcount=15)), the 'Star' is Atu IV. I think it is also resonant to the imagery of the Hive that you see in Maatian Magick, and as I eluded to before also evokes Na'ton and Adam Qadmon.... This is a prinicple of social organization folks, and one which blows the old 'reality lockdown' of your so-called 'Illuminati' (Empire) out of the water. I don't buy all this crap about lizards and aliens, I just see more and less effective methods of managing social energy flow. All these conspiracy theories reek of Choronzon.
-Ibisis

[Kain]

Ibisis has absolutely covered me on this. Amazingly profound and powerful points put across quite flawlessly Ibisis...

Kain

[Naomi]

The other part of this is related to 'Every Man and Every Woman is a Star'. As is pretty clear to anyone on this site, this has to many of us the meaning that what we are doing here is re-structuring the model of the soul, and translating it from a vertical/arboric model into a stellar model. In particular we are able to create a model of the soul based on the figure of the Magen star . THis does not replace the tree so much as sublate it. As every man and every woman is a star, we find ourselves 'crystalizing' as we probe deeper into this body of wisdom, and taking said form. The other interpretation which is equally true of the phrase"every man and woman is a star' is that we are actually all a single star. This is not to be under stood as being true 'more than' the idea that we are each individual stars, but rather has the profound implication that just as we each form our beings individually, those individually formed selves are capable of locking together fractally, that is , we are thelemicly compatible. Imagine a million star-souls, each an independent source of will, locking together as a fractal and forming a single star that can will as one, while retaining each individual star. This is totally feasible using Abrahadabra tech and is the key behind why, for example in the glyphic tarot I have designed (go here (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=2939&postcount=15)), the 'Star' is Atu IV. I think it is also resonant to the imagery of the Hive that you see in Maatian Magick, and as I eluded to before also evokes Na'ton and Adam Qadmon.... This is a prinicple of social organization folks, and one which blows the old 'reality lockdown' of your so-called 'Illuminati' (Empire) out of the water. I don't buy all this crap about lizards and aliens, I just see more and less effective methods of managing social energy flow. All these conspiracy theories reek of Choronzon.
-Ibisis

So is this a wordy version of "We are all one?"

I agree with you but that doesn't mean your theory blows things like cancerous growth or leukemia out of the water. :yes: I bet if you get genital warts the truth that "we're all one" is going to take on a whole new itchy meaning. :laugh:

You're calling it "crap" and you seem to be very uncomfortable with these ideas. I wonder why. See I don't really care if it's real or not. I'm only concerned with results and then we analyze the aftermath...afterwards. And we have a tendency to enjoy playing around with paradigms because it's what we do to help improve what is actually a fairly shitty world to live in for beautiful free creatures...any artist will tell you. Hell you can walk the streets of a major metropolitan city for a day and find a hundred reasons not to be complacent. We do not live in a perfect machine and if we did there would be no sensible reason to argue about it unless that is your function for some unknown purpose.

Maybe we're functioning as we're supposed to...maybe complacency is the disfunction. Struggle and violence and brutality as well as competition are hardwired into the universe. Galaxies eating galaxies, even....

So pardon me while I continue to be unpleasant and aggressive towards aliens and reptiles. From my perspective...and my homies, in fact (my personal array of companions in my star) reptillian aliens are shells to be discarded into the great big wastebasket of the universe. Whether that is mental or physical is irrelevant, I think...

And I don't buy all of this 'crap' about Thelema and Choronzon, either, so we're even.

[Anibis]

So is this a wordy version of "We are all one?" No.

And I don't buy all of this 'crap' about Thelema and Choronzon, either, so we're even. It wasn't for sale. Lizards and space aliens are phantasmagoria. The real problems are social. And they are mundane. Choronzon isn't 'real', it's a description of what it means to be obsessed by fragments. Thelema means 'Will', that's all. I have no religion. I have no interest in 'duking it out' with you either. Have a nice trip.

-Ib-

[Naomi]

No.



It wasn't for sale. Lizards and space aliens are phantasmagoria. The real problems are social. And they are mundane. Choronzon isn't 'real', it's a description of what it means to be obsessed by fragments. Thelema means 'Will', that's all. I have no religion. I have no interest in 'duking it out' with you either. Have a nice trip.

-Ib-Okay if you don't like the idea you can go shit on your dog or your nearest Crowley book instead of the thread...

"Real" is relative. "Problem" is relative.

We're not your average conspiracy theorists and we don't halfway believe everything we say. So you need to sit your ass down and have some respect for playful ideas. Which are for players and we're really not funky ass scrubs who spout Crowley constantly.

Come on...they sell lizards at your local Petsmart...are you going to tell me those are Phatasmagoria? Your nearest twelve year old is going to give you a funny look if you try to tell him that.

"Those arn't lizards, and they are not real. They are phatasmagoria."

And aliens...hell even most scientists admit there's at least a possibility of life on other planets.

A good response to an idea you can't tolerate is the old native american saying...

"That's a good story, too."

But your posts arn't all story, they're mostly an endeavor at putting others down.

Yeah I'm not going to say goodbye to you yet but I would like an explanation for your intolerance of other's beliefs. Would you go into some random jungle and tell the homies there their local gods are phantasmagoria?I think not. If you were an anthropologist you'd be like "Huh that's an interesting belief I wonder where it arises from." And then you'd scribble some things in a journal like a picture of their religious implements or some of the herbs they eat. So why harass the jungle natives here in the continent of internetopia?

Thanks I always have a nice trip these days. :)

[m1thr0s]

Also a think a lot of good would come from restoring the communal link.me too...although it's not so easily accomplished.

Okay if you don't like the idea you can go shit on your dog or your nearest Crowley book instead of the thread...Chill out a notch for Xst sake...people have different points of view, that's all...

This whole reptilian conspiracy thing has been shoved down our throats to the point that some people are just flat fed up with it...you ought to be able to appreciate/expect that to some extent at least...

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

http://img.123greetings.com/events/fnd_beer/1054-001-18-1017.gif


Chill out a notch for Xst sake...

No U!

[m1thr0s]

lol...

now see...I'm a lot more into the turtle conspiracy...nobody ever seems to want to discuss that one...

Afterall...It was the Lo Shu turtle that got me into all this Mutational Alchemy stuff...very sneaky critters, turtles...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

What If I shit on the dog while it shits on the book? Relax, I am also playful. I could take the offending sentence out of my post and it wouldn't make much of a difference to the content. I don't think necessarily that 'real' is relative, and if you say it is, you are making an absolute statement... Anyways, I won't continue this if you don't...
I think you can believe what you like. My sentence was my way of saying 'that I don't believe it', and have heard alot of it... Anyways... If you look at the majority of my posts, I think you'll find that I am not really after bashing peoples beliefs, nor am I either uber intolterant (or for that matter, tolerant of everything (should I be?)) but I have some serious concerns about the viability of certain myths... Anyways, I hope that we can coexist here and not take each other too seriously... Ahoy.
-Ibisis

[fr.novumorganum]

All these conspiracy theories reek of Choronzon.
-Ibisis


Ibisis: this was an incredible post, and a wonderful crytalization of what I've thought about "every man and every woman is a star". Thanks, and that last line I qouted above might be the truest thing I've ever read on the internet.

[fr.novumorganum]

lol...

now see...I'm a lot more into the turtle conspiracy...nobody ever seems to want to discuss that one...

Afterall...It was the Lo Shu turtle that got me into all this Mutational Alchemy stuff...very sneaky critters, turtles...

m1thr0s


oddly, in S. King's IT a turtle is the foundation of the universe and the only creature who can repell the endless spider eveil of it.:no:

[m1thr0s]

It was the turtles made him produce that movie...they get really sick of reptiles always getting all the credit...:mad:

http://abrahadabra.com/images/turtle01.gif

m1thr0s

[Naomi]

Well I have no problem with you coming into a thread just to say you disagree with it, as long as I can do the same with impunity....using cross-terminology from my own systems.

But your point was made and I hope to discuss this more with Okazaki and others later on without going off on some Thelemic tangent.

So I've skimmed your posts and found they're mostly one liners yet you felt the need to post a large paragraph that has nothing to do with the illuminati hierarchy except to call it crap and then go off into some rehash of the collective unconscious phenomenon. Because to me...every man/woman is a star means every man/woman is literally a star - a great big giant ball of gas burning out in the middle of the void. That's how I interpreted it the first time I read it. Though I certainly do acknowledge that big stars like the sun and such talk to each other too, in their own language.


Alright now coming to the end of the post:

but I have some serious concerns about the viability of certain myths...
Like you don't like it and you think it's a boogieman named Choronzon?

Maybe if you explained what you're concerned about a little better I could understand.

Personally I think that the meme is beneficial to humanity whether it is true or not. And I havn't decided if it is or not. There is lots of compelling evidence out there to suggest that someone or something had a hand in mankind's development other than natural evolution. And even in my family history there's some interesting things going on. I don't buy your Choronzon idea. Denial of something on the basis of reason and logic is folly. Caution only works when you're cautious in both directions. Me, I'm about extremes. I am getting inside the systems and finding out how solid they are. It's one of the best ways to test the truth. Or test anything...gods, people....

We can get along fine just as long as you realize I don't hate you...I don't even really dislike you. Because you know from your responses it seems like you have heart...



Ibisis: this was an incredible post, and a wonderful crytalization of what I've thought about "every man and every woman is a star". Thanks, and that last line I qouted above might be the truest thing I've ever read on the internet.

***offensive image removed*** Naomi...this crosses the line...no one is calling you an ass-kisser for agreeing with Oazaki and no one who happens to agree with anyone else will be called such either. You are relying on personal attacks to win your argument...it isn't necessary...you have made some good points...this just spoils it. m1thr0s

:yes::yes::yes:

[Anibis]

Like you don't like it and you think it's a boogieman named Choronzon?



Nah, Like I think it is disinformation that ends up working more in the favor of the elites who do indeed often conspire. If you cannot say to someone that, 'well the 911 attacks looked fishy', (and they did) without having the majority of the people in the room go 'oh yeah, I guess you think that the lizards did it' heh heh heh... If you ask me, leaking a mythology like that into the mindstream is a pretty good way of drumming up an 'opposition' that looks so silly that nobody will take them seriously and you/they win by default. THAT is my problem with the lizards conspiracy. Also, you insist on making a straw man out of what I say, you paint me as some Crowleyian Acolytle who does nothing but spout one liners. Actually I parted company with Crowley years ago, I just happen to know a thing or two about numbers and systems is all... I even told you that I was using Choronzon as a metaphor (and I think an apt one), not a being... you are getting worked up over this beyond how you need to be, but worse, you are tossing back VERY unsound reasons, Ad-hominums, insults, bits of sophistry... It's fine you don't hate me... I do have heart... I don't hate you either, but I think you are pretty mistaken. I simply don't concur with the principle premise you seem to ferociously pursue: That everyone has to agree that all truths are equally valid. I don't accept that, to me, that is a crypto-absolutism. It's the same as saying 'all is one'.I don't think there is any one system that is right , but I sure as hell have seen some that were seriously off, and as far as I can tell the David Icke, alien business is a Science Fiction cover story for a nastier truth which involves certain elite parties controlling and abusing political power. So anyways, let's be chill, and if you need to rebuttal this, please at least do yourself the favor of not making a cartoon character out of my point of view, out of my arguments, alright? I don't care who you are, or what you believe in, but I can respect it, as long as you don't flip out with all these insults, mischaracterizations, and distorted bits of rhetorical argument (Did you really think I meant there were no such thing as Lizards in the common sense? Come on...) You will get nowhere unless you give your opponent the courtesy of interpreting their argument in the strongest possible way.On the other hand, we could have fun with this, and not take it personally at all! I do have an agenda, it's true. I'd like to take the emphasis off the 'story' and put it onto power relations, AND THAT INCLUDES THELEMA THE RELIGION, okay? I really don't wan't to have to explain that one again... Once the power relations are clear, then we can get back to stories, and LO! It becomes a little clearer where each one leads... Each one is like a little 'Will to Power', swarming across the body of human social/political reality (the kind you cannot sum up in a story)... If that picture is clear, the myths themself are easier to intepret...So, Seriously, I hope that we can steer this conversation towards fun again, even if we do butt heads respectfully...

-Ibisis

[Naomi]

Ah so what exactly do you mean by Choronzon, then? It doesn't make any sense to me as I'm not working from a Thelemic context.

No of course I didn't believe you were referring to lizards, I was giving you a hard time. Yet when it comes down to it I do believe reality...pet lizards at petsmart...are all just illusionary thoughtforms. So personally you can see why I have little reverence for what's real and not real in the popular opinion. To me, everything is real - mental or 'physical'. That's a mainstream idea, I have learned. What's far out is the idea that mental and physical were never really divisions of reality, they are the same thing. Quantum physics touches on this idea, I think...or at least it gets close with string theory. (I like string theory) And so the lizard people are real. How real and to what extent they exist is debateable. There's a lot of humans who think they walk around like anything else...that they are not supernatural or make believe. I'm curious how far that extends. The only way to find out is to experiment.

If you can offer me proof they don't exist, fine.

No I don't agree it damages the 9/11 'truth' movement. We have Alex Jones for that. I mean...I like Alex Jones. I don't believe him fully and I don't know if I trust him or not.

I don't throw in all of my chips in anywhere. Whenever I read something about it, there in the back of my mind is "What if this is my enemy?" in reference to Jones or Icke or someone else. You know, it's not paranoia, it's Satanism. You question everything. Satanism I havn't dumped yet. It's a strong system and I havn't outstretched the core beliefs there.

Ultimately why should I care what happens?

I don't have an agenda Ibisis, that's not the way of it for creatures of chaos like myself...I work for whoever is the most interesting and sexy. Are you perhaps interested in sharing your agenda?

[Anibis]

Oh, I did share my agenda: translate the 'stories' into an understanding of power relations, then re-create/weave/navigate said stories from that perspective. Nothing more glamorous than that I'm afraid. I have a very light touch of Marxism in my blood, heh heh... Also as I said before:

And they are mundane. Choronzon isn't 'real', it's a description of what it means to be obsessed by fragments.

Which means, 'Choronzon' designates the type of consciousness which builds a whole system of justifications onto fragmented, scanty evidence, and blows them up into huge, overarching 'truths'... By that, I mean the 'THIS IS A TRUE STORY' kind, rather than the silently watch the way the world unfolds kind of truth...

Furthermore, In accordance with what you say as regards lizards, myths, and so on being real. YES, I agree, they are real, but what I believe is happening here, perhaps not by you, but certainly by many, is that the 'planes' are being confused. While the lizard mythos is certain existent virtually, I have a bit of a problem with it it being touted as true actually. I'm sure this distinction could do with some more elaboration. Certain beings have an existance which is trancendental to the way things unfold in the world. Zeus, for example, does not walk around downtown St. John's getting shitfaced, and brawling in the streets. HOWEVER, there are instantiations of Zeus everywhere.... Virtual beings intersect with the actual world laterally. They can intersect with it in many points at once, or hypercontract into one particular event. This is how magic works! The virtual and the actual are usually parrallel, though; they do not merge directly. Instead, what happens is that a transcendental being, god, object or force, excerts pressure on the actual, and then the actual flows, in it's own terms along those lines. When the virtual is pumped full of 'astral garbage', or hostile beasts, well, yeah, nasty shit unfolds... At the same time though, when one collapses the dichotomy of virtual and actual, all you basically have are different lines of force interacting, moving, dancing across naught. From this perspective, myths themselves are phantasmagoria, and from this perspective the adept is like a 'gravity well', or star that warps the field of both the actual and the virtual, causing certain probabilities to arise, and others to diminish... So there you have it, my justification for the offending position. Choronzon as I see it is the dehibilitating obsession with virtual objects/beings, such that one cannot translate them into so many forces weaving through time, and work with them directly... Fair enough?
-Ibisis

[YellowJacket]

Yeah, it takes some restructuring. I think if we combine Demings management principles, find a way to keep the communities in the 250 people range, among other things, we can make leaps and bounds. The internet allows us to keep the massive-urban advantages while still keeping the community focus in our personal relationships. The business/economic potential that the internet has is incredible massive and favors the individual.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/16208270.htm


"The Browns are an example of what demographers say appears to be an unprecedented phenomenon -- even in a good economy, more people are leaving California for other states than are arriving from the rest of the country. Between 2004 and 2005, the migration flow into California from the other 49 states started flowing the other way. Data from the state Department of Finance shows that, for the first time this decade, more people left California in 2005 for another state than the number who moved in. Mary Heim, a finance department demographer, says this particular kind of outflow will continue for the foreseeable future.
Unlike the tens of thousands who left Silicon Valley following the tech bust earlier this decade, the new migration is about the quest for something besides a job: a better quality of life at a lower cost of living."

[Okazaki Castle]

Well, leaving aside the more contentious older and more mysterious sects of The Illuminati for now, let us focus on the relatively well-known and publicly documented sect founded by Adam Weishaupt in Bavaria. Slightly modified excerpt from http://assets.in.gr/papasotiriou/covers/184403416X.jpg follows:

Weishaupt founded the the Illuminati to fight the oppression of religion, destroy the Church and create a one-world government. He wanted to replace Christianity with a "religion" of reason to end war, ignorance and the struggle for power. But first he recognized his need to gain huge power in order tp put his plan into action.

The Illuminati was to be kept a secret coalition of liberalism and the furthering of knowledge. Wesihaupt studied anti-Christian doctrines astrology, medicine and the occult. He was also influenced by the secret cult of the Pythagoreans who believed that men and women should pool thier belongings (later to become the basic philosophy of Communism). He also studied the Masons (and was later to form an alliance with them). On May 1st 1776, under the direction of the newly formed House of Rothschild, he formed the secret Order of the Illuminati ('enlightened ones'), the name said to be derived from Luciferian teachigs (Lucifer means 'Bearer of Light'). He started with just five members. The organization copied the hierarchical structure of the Jesuits and the Freemasons and ever since, the Illuminati has used a variety of tactics to motivate, blackmail and manipulate people in the name of enlightenment, freedom and emancipation in order to maintain power.

All members are given a classical name. The early members were called Spartacus, Cato, Lucian, Pythagoras, Marius, Diomedes, Ajar, Mohomed and Sylla and their headquarters were in Munich. In 1777 they joined and soon took control of the Masonic lodge there. Within four years there were 60 members known as the "insinuators" whose mission was to affiliate others within the order, while keeping the true aims or the society secret. This involved enticing honest visionaries, ich people, society women, scientists, free thinkers, liberals or any 'enlightened' group that they could convince to further their interests. By 1786 there were lodges all over Europe, Africa and America.

It was found that the best way to eliminate religion was to split mankind into opposing ideologies and get them to fight amongst themselves, thus weakening national governments and orgainzed religion. In 1781 Jews were allowed to join and the Illuminati moved their headquarters to Frankfurt, where leading Jewish financiers were courted, including the Oppenheimers and the Bayers.

[...]

during the Battle of Waterloo earlky signs indicated that Napoleon would win. [The Rothschilds] sold all their stock on the English stock market with insider knowledge that Napoleon was about to beaten. When stocks plummetted they bought them cheaply before news came thru that Wellington had won. Now they effectively controlled the British economy and set up the Bank of England under Nathan de Rothschild's control. They took control of the French economy in 1818 by buying vast quantities of government bonds and then flooding the market. They also controlled the German money supplpy. They then appeared to finance both sides of every war since the American Revolution in the quest for one world government.

And here we are today....

Regards all,
Oazaki.

[Okazaki Castle]

The Illuminati think a pyramid looks like this:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/chapter3/illuminati_logo2.jpg

In fact, the top of a pyramid when looked at from the perspective of Above (which I think is where Secret Chiefs normally are) is the centrepoint of the triangle, like a plan view in architectural plans. The following diagram makes that 'centrepoint' principle quite clear I think:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1192/zhedhisymbolpscolorzzb0.jpg

That also makes the Eye one of the 'legs' of the pyramid. And it's at the bottom, therefore, too...

I think that could be significant, what if sacred geometry affects Reality and stuff...

all the best,
Oazaki.

[Anibis]

What if...
-A-

[Okazaki Castle]

I found this excerpt on the web, outlining how the 'Nordic' faction of extraterrestrials conduct strategic operations on Earth. Whilst normally I discount most UFO-related research, especially from New Age circles, I found this one quite fascinating as it is fairly similar to the approach I've used in my plans / strategies in the area (I do things like email the FSB and send ultimatums by Special Delivery to world governments. In Real Life. I don't take the humans and their systems seriously you see, and find death funny, mainly cuz I want to leave this place for better places I've projected to, or been abducted to even sometimes, for example):

THE GRAYS, THE NORDICS, AND INTERSTELLAR CONFLICT:

The first type [of Gray] is the short gray humanoids with the large heads, which resemble embryos and average about four and a half feet in height. They are from a solar system that revolves around Rigel. Rigel is a double bluish-white star on the left foot of Orion...

It is this type of humanoid that is performing most of the animal mutilations and human mutilations, which has made a secret deal with our government, and which was in contact with Hitler [Nazis]. They derive nourishment from the glandular secretions and the enzymes they extract from the animals they mutilate, which they absorb through their pores. Our 'government' permits such activities partially because of its acute fear of these beings, and partially because it is under the delusion that they will give us technical information enabling us to attain military superiority over the Russians in exchange for our permitting the mutilations and abductions.

The Stealth Bomber and Star Wars technologies are being obtained from them. However, our government does not appear to realize that when it comes to the crunch the technology they are transmitting will not work as it is supposed to (Note: More advanced technologies have been obtained via crash-retrievals, an aspect that the aliens may have underestimated. - Branton). It is not in their interest to give us decisive military superiority over the Russians, or vice versa. It is in their interest to keep us in a state of unresolved conflict with each other, the old game of divide and conquer...

Working under the instructions of the humanoids from Rigel, CIA and former NAZI scientists have developed and deployed malignant strains of bacteria and viruses, including AIDS. The rationale from the fascist point of view is to exterminate portions of the population considered to be undesirable. The rationale from the Rigelian point of view is to decimate the human population to such an extent that the survivors would accept [not resist] open control by the Rigelians...

The humanoids that have been nick-named 'Swedes' are on the average between six and six and a half feet tall. They [some] are from a solar system that revolves around Procyon, a binary yellow-white and yellow star system that rises before Sirius in Canis Minoris [in the body of the Lesser Dog], about 11.4 light years from Earth. They are from the fourth planet in orbit around the Procyon double star system. The tall blond humanoids from Procyon and the short gray humanoids from Rigel have been enemies for thousands of years.

The tall Blonds from Procyon have a benign attitude toward humanity, except for their strong disapproval of our inhumanity to each other. This strong disapproval is further intensified by our government having made a secret alliance with their hereditary enemies, in order to obtain even more destructive weapons systems than those already in existence. Our 'government' is not interested in negotiating with the Procyonians, as they would not provide us with weapon systems...

Their motivation for breeding with humans is to tune-up the frequency of our species, in order to help us to help ourselves. Their concern is for the well-being of all forms of life, not just humanity. The entire biosphere will benefit if we fulfill our positive potential, instead of self-destructing our planet's biosphere in the process.

It would be a mistake to count on them to clean up the mess we have made of our polluted planet, or to bring peace by dismantling our nuclear weapons. It is up to us to solve the problems that we have ourselves created...

In order to extricate ourselves from the covert alliance the CIA (and their Nazi SS predecessors. - Branton) had made with Rigel, without our knowledge or consent, we must first regain control of our government...

Valerian then quotes the following words of one Procyonese star-traveler by the name of KHYLA, who revealed the following to an un-named earth woman with whom he had established contact:

"...Tyrants have been defeated many times on many planets, in countless solar systems and galaxies. How strange it is that as soon as one tyrant of any species is thought to be banished forever another always, but ALWAYS, takes his place. The idealistic revolutionaries who defeated King George III in America went on to oppress the Indians and Blacks. Many of those who fought most courageously against the Axis powers of fascism later became fascists themselves, as is demonstrated by the present plight of the Palestinians, Afghans, Chileans and Nicaraguans. Yes, you must try to regain control of your government, but if so much as one individual involved in this process has not first gained control of his or her selfhood, it will be for naught. One can never defeat or gain control of anything but oneself. Those destined to ouste the Rigelians must always keep track of the state of their selfhood, and learn first to defeat within themselves the essence of that which is tyranny. Through this type of awareness, they will know when to and when not to act. Through understanding a hostile entity to be but one of the ineffable's countless facades, it loses its power over you. Through the ability to wisely perceive a hostile entity, you may gain control of it. In overcoming the Rigelians, one must take great precautions not to become oneself the enemy."

Or, as the old Chinese proverb says:

"BEWARE WHEN FIGHTING A DRAGON THAT YOU DO NOT BECOME ONE!"

Khyla, the Procyonese Intelligence agent, continues:

"If you were a highly advanced culture about to invade a relatively primitive culture, you would not do it with a flourish of ships showing up in the heavens, and take the risk of being fired upon. That's the type of warfare less evolved mortals would get into. You would begin by creating intense confusion, with only inferences of your presence, inferences which cause controversial disagreement (Note: It is interesting that the major Intelligence projects designed to discredit UFO witnesses and cause confusion and contention among -- and infiltration of -- various UFO research organizations have been traced back to the Nazified NSA-CIA, which in turn maintains, as this is being written, continued ties with the Grays. - Branton).

"You would go to the most secret and powerful organizations within the society. In the case of the United States, you would infiltrate the CIA, and through the use of techniques unknown to them, you would take over some of the key people in their innermost core group. You would proceed in the same fashion to take over key members of the KGB. You would also create great dissension among the public at large, some individuals and groups insisting that they have seen UFOs, others insisting with equal vehemence that such a thing is not possible, and that they are either liars or deluded.

"You would involve the planet's two major nations in an on-going idiotic philosophical dispute, keeping them constantly at each other's throats over such questions as whether Thomas Jefferson was greater than Karl Marx or vice-versa (that is, whether 'Capitalist' tyranny or 'Communist' tyranny is worse than the other. By the way, don't confuse Communism with Communalism, and don't confuse Capitalism with Democracy. Communalism and Democracy are sovereigntist movements that respect the personal rights and freedoms of others. So-called unrestrained Communism and Capitalism are co-dependent collectist evils. Capitalist tyranny created Communist tyranny, and Communist tyranny justifies its existence as a force to fight Capitalist tyranny. Insane world we live in, is it not? - Branton). You would keep them continuously occupied with quarreling like two adolescent boys trying to prove their masculinity over who has which piece of territory, whether one has the right to invade Afghanistan or the other has the right to invade Nicaragua, persistently exchanging threats and insults like a couple of macho teen-agers, while arguing whether one should dismantle one type of nuclear warhead, or the other should dismantle another type of nuclear warhead. As you watched all this, you would sit back and you would laugh, if you had the capacity to laugh...

"You would occasionally let your ships be seen by some of the ordinary citizens, so that the elite governmental groups would become involved in attempts to keep them quiet, clumsily squelching attempts to make information about UFO activity public. This would result in the mass population losing confidence in the veracity of their elected officials. There would be constant arguments between the authorities and the public as to whether or not the persistently reported phenomena genuinely existed, thereby setting the population and the government at each other's throats. You would have already set the two major super-powers at each other's throats. By subtly causing economic turmoil, you would set the "Haves" and the "Have Nots" at each other's throats. In all possible ways, you would plant the seeds of massive discontent.

somewhat similar then...

all the best,
Oazaki.

[deviadah]

Adam Weishaupt and his crew wrote letters using aliases for people and places (as mentioned earlier in this thread). Below are some of them:


Alias Real Name

Ajax = Massenhausen; Count
Alcibiades = Hoheneicher
Amelius = Bode, F. H.
Attila = Sauer.
Bayard = Busche, F. H.
Brutus = Savioli, Count
Cato = Zwack, Lawyer
Cicero = Pfelt, or Pfest
Claudius = Ph. Zwack
Confuscius = Baierhamer, or Bauer
Coriolanus = Tropponero, Zuschwartz.
Cornelius Scipio = Berger, ditto
Democrites = Bauer
Diomedes = Constanza, Marq.
Euclides = Riedl
Hannibal = Bassus, Baron
Hermes = Socher, School Inspector
L. Cornelius = Meggenhofen
Livius = Badorffer, or Ruedorfer
Lucian = Nicholai, Bookseller
Ludovicus Bavarus = Losi.
Marius = Hertel, Canon
Pericles = Ecker
Philo = Knigge, Freyherr, i.e.Gentleman
Pythagoras = Drexl, Librarian
Pythagoras = Westenrieder, Professor
Saladin = Ecker, ditto
Shaftesbury = Steger
Solon = Michl
Spartacus = Weishaupt, Professor
Sulla = Meggenhoff, Paymaster
Tamerlane = Lange
Thales = Kapfinger
Tiberius = Merz
Timon = Michel
Trismegistus = Socher, School Inspector
Tycho Brahe = Gaspar, Merchant
Zoroaster = Baierhamer
As a sidenote I would like to say that I agree somewhat with the orginal Illuminati, after all they tried to Abolish such silly things as tradition!

[deviadah]

Oh I got this also...