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m1thr0s
12-14-2006, 01:16 AM
In the Beginning...

It has come to my attention that a lot of people just don't have a clue what the hell I am going on about with all this Mutational Alchemy stuff or why it might make any difference to anybody else. In part this is due to the fact that I started out posting things I knew would be of some interest to people I have already been in communication with for a number of years and are already themselves familiar with a good many of the essentials.

But this doesn't help anybody else and when I find that even people who have themselves been involved in one or another practices for many years haven't a clue what I am going on about...this clearly signals a serious communication problem.

So I am going to attempt to examine Mutational Alchemy from the very beginning and try to establish both what it is and why it might make any difference to others. This will actually be a little difficult for me since I am myself so steeped in many of these ideas and practices that it can be nearly impossible to remember all the steps that might have led me to the present. Nevertheless, if this is going to do anybody any good, I have to try.

Sorting Out a Few Key Terms

Anyone who has actually attempted to pour over my posts has probably already realized that I bounce around between a lot of terms you may have a very difficult time tracking down via Google. Believe it or not, there really is a powerful thread of continuity running through all of this, but in order to understand what that is, you have to first understand what it is that I do best and where the vast majority of my personal emphasis has been placed throughout my own esoteric practise. Rather than just lay out a "glossary of terms" as was suggested by one member, I am going to try to initiate this ground-up discussion and stop at intervals to clarify those terms I am introducing for the first time.

To begin with, everything I discuss at any time revolves around the so-called Body of Light and its mastery. That is my whole focus in this immediate incarnation. Before and After everything else I may ally myself with, I am first and foremost a Body of Light Technician. It is the thing I have been studying since I was a teenager (I am 53 years old at this writing) and it is the backbone of every magickal/alchemical discussion I engage. Whether I am discussing Abrahadabra or the Tetractys or the TwinStar or the Lo Shu Diagram or the Tai Hsuan Ching or even Ningishzidda and perhaps 100 or more other things you have rarely heard of, it all comes back to the Body of Light and its mastery. That is where my passion lies and that is what I am always going on about in one form or another.

So forget all these other terms for a moment...we will return to them in due course. For the moment I want to just discuss the Body of Light itself and try to extrapolate the core assumptions underscoring this language. Getting straight on this will determine whether or not any of the rest of this stuff is of any real use to you. If you are not onboard with the Body of Light as a matter of utmost importance, nothing else I can ever say will ever matter much anyway, since, believe it or not, that's actually all I ever really talk about.

The Body of Light

The *Body of Light*is a generic term pertaining to the notion of an *etheric* body (and bodies) that is thought to exist in tangent to the physical body itself. Similar in concept to the rings of a rainbow, the idea is that the physical body, as we know it, is actually only the lowest rung in a lattice network of bodies descending from the Highest (subtlest) to the Lowest (coursest). Various *models* of this extended anatomical network of bodies have been asserted over time, some asserting as few as 3, others as many as 7 or more grand divisions within this overall Body of Light framework. At the time of this writing, if you run a search on Wikipedia on the Body of Light (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_of_light) you will come upon a kind of misinformation that has done enormous damage to the correct understanding (and productive discussion) of the Body of Light as it has been asserted since the dawn of history by many different cultures in many different ways. While it is true that Thelema has its own rendition(s) of this ancient metaphysical thesis, any knowledgable Thelemite will be able to tell you that this is drawn primarily from Golden Dawn teachings, which themselves are largely drawn from traditional and hermetic qabbalah sources. There is in fact no such thing as a uniquely Thelemic Body of Light standard (though there is, in fact, a new model to be weighed, which I will come to presently). A more responsible contemporary treatise on the Body of Light in western magickal tradition can be found in Mark Stavish's condensed essay The Body of Light in the Western Esoteric Tradition (http://www.hermetic.com/stavish/essays/bodylight.html)

It should be noted that references to Chi Kung (see: Qigong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong)), a traditional Body of Light discipline endemic to Chinese Alchemy, do not strictly apply to the model being presented in Mutational Alchemy. Chi Kung works with Chi energy which would typically be seated within the solar plexus region and is developed and directed at will by the experienced practitioner through a complex system of breathing and visualization excercises. There is nothing inherently wrong or invalid with this practise...it is simply not the same model of light-energy that we are dealing with in Abrahadabra/Mutational Alchemy. The closest historical parallel I have been able to find to the Mutational Alchemy system is the Merkabah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkabah) , or "Chariot of Soul", from Qabbalistic literature, of which very little has been written outlining its mastery. While certain similarities do exist between traditional Chi and Kundalini practices and the principles outlined in Mutational Alchemy, the techniques, properties and overall objectives are quite different. In Abrahadabra we are attempting to energize and gradually phase into the *StarBody* itself, as depicted in the Abrahadabra Grid, of which the Tree of Life is viewed as a physiological subdomain, or mathematical subset. We base our proof of this *StarBody* system...first upon the geometry of Abrahadabra itself and finally upon the actual results we obtain through working with elemental energy fields directly. It is thus very important to scrutinize these maps very closely, as this will be our starting point in developing the visualization disciplines necessary to realize any actual physical results. I should also point out that you are going to be operating without much of any *safety net* in the Abrahadabra/Mutational Alchemy system, simply because no *traditional* precedent is known to exist for this immediate model of reality. One's approach has to be based upon what is internally coherent and logically and intuitively correct, since there are no other conventional *guides* to lean upon. This is a bold new territory for pioneering spirits who can trust to their own best judgments to lead them.

Historical Overview

It is virtually impossible to determine where and when the whole concept of a Body of Light began. Ethnobotanists would typically argue that it has its origins in Shamanic traditions where the method of accessing this higher anatomical network would have involved injesting psychotropic concoctions of one sort or another and going into deep trance states where the ability to step into these higher body systems might then be directly experienced. Since there are virtually no written records to substantiate this claim, we have only the iconographic evidence of cultural art expressions to guide us here.

What we do know is that very specific reference to the Body of Light anatomical structure can be dated as far back as the Vedas of ancient India, where we come to the notion of The Five Koshas (http://www.sanatansociety.org/yoga_and_meditation/five_koshas_yoga.htm). The Five Koshas, or "sheaths", amount to rings of subtle pranic force (see also: the Vayus (http://www.kheper.net/topics/Samkhya/pranas.htm), or 5 Winds) surrounding the Atman, or "True Self" which resides at their core. It is vitally important for us to grasp that these "layers" as defined in the Vedas are not separate from each other...these are not separate bodies per se...but rather degrees of subtlety within the body as a whole. To this day, the Five Koshas amount to a central Yogic doctrine around which the Eight Limbs of Yoga (http://www.sivananda.org/teachings/philosophy/eightlimbs.html)have been developed as a means to purifying and fortifying mind & body so as to ultimately be able to access all of these "sheathes" at will.

At approximately the same time as the Vedas are being compiled in India, in the far east we see the emergence of a Dynastic China which is ushered in with a comprehensive model of universal reality in the form of the I Ching. The I Ching is typically touted as an *Oracle*, used for the purpose of divining Fate for good or ill, but it is actually a great deal more than this. The I Ching is a complete Cosmogony, defining Earth, Man and Heaven in one Grand Unified logic, or physics. While it would not, on its face, appear to be an actual model of the Body of Light, we know that around this physics the entirety of Yin-Yang Medicine sprang into being along with its doctrine of Chi. We find very ancient mappings of Cosm outlining whole universal continuum and Man's place in relation to this, so that the sum of all its parts and all of its extensions, does in fact give us a model of *man-made-perfect*, which is, at its heart, what the Body of Light is really all about. The differences between the Indian and the Chinese approaches are very interesting to observe, since what we find is that the Ayurvedic (East-Indian) model is emphasizing Microcosm where the Chinese system is actually more focused on Macrocosm. Nevertheless both systems set immediately about to integrate the physical body itself, so that while the Ayurvedic system evolves into the Chakras, identifying energy along the spine, the Chinese system evolves into the Meridians and is plotting Chi pathways throughout the body...including higher states of energy/consciousness not ordinarily accessable without the advent of disciplined concentration.

Exactly where and when Western Civilization joins in with this discussion is a little hard to track with a perfect certainty. We find evidences of Trees of Life dating all the way to Mesopotamia but Body of Light doctrines have almost universally been "hidden" from the profane...these were were secret teachings imparted to the initiated only and so it is difficult to know for certain just how much resides within the ancient Greek or the Persian or Hebrew cultures for instance. What has filtered down to us more-or-less intact has largely come by way of the Qabbalistic Tree of Life and its tenets, yet we know that parallels do exist in the Druidic, the Nordic and other places across the globe. Similar to the Chinese system in many respects, the Qabbalistic Tree of Life is principally focused on Macrocosm. The Tree of Life is not really charting energy along the spine so much as it is attempting to map out the relationship of Universe to Man. Even so, in lieue of the Hermetic Alchemical axiom "As Above - So Below" - "As Within - So Without", what we discover is that anything which does a good job of charting Macrocosm will inevitably find its reciprocal compliment in Microcosm as well, and vice-versa. While the Tree of Life is not intentionally tracking the "Gunas" for instance, nevertheless the Gunas are clearly represented in the 3 Pillars themselves. Because Man is still the measure by which Universe is being defined, what corresponds to Macrocosm has an immediate relevance to Microcosm also.

Underscoring Assumptions

The careful reader may have already observed that in some respects we can assert that what has come to be called The Body of Light might also be called "The Mind". And indeed, if we follow Carl Jung's lead in this respect, then just about anything that attempts to define archetypal relationships of any kind has something to do with this discussion. For the Hermetic Alchemist, Mind & Matter are really all about the same thing...all made from the same "stuff"...just vibrating at different frequencies. Why do we assign "bodies" to archetypes at all? Why is it so important to us that Gods have certain forms and certain powers and so on? The mind classifies things according to "kind" and we are always the measuring rod against which our knowledge is measured. Even if we break parts of this habit, we will almost certainly never be rid of it completely. Form speaks to Function and to understand a things' Form is to understand its Value.

One of the core assumptions surrounding Body of Light literature is the idea that human beings are fundamentally a house divided. It is universally asserted that what has occured is that consciousness has descended from a primal Unity into a condition of Duality and is now confronted with the difficulty of regaining this lost equilibrium. Exactly why this may have occured is subject to different points of view, some contending that this has to do with a powerful pull towards individuality, others that it is simply the way consciousness acquires new experience, still others that "intelligences", like stars, are formed in a womb-like condition but must pass through this whole process to become fully matured and so on. I do not speculate on the reasons so much myself but I am reasonably convinced of the Unity/Duality scenario in general. Work that we do on the Body of Light is intended to restore this Unity. When you hear talk of a Supreme Attainment, or the Great Liberation, or the Great Work in Completion etc, we are always talking about the idea of having established...or re-established...this original Unity, with the possible exception that having carved it out in adversity, it should not be so easily lost again.

Nearly all mystical and/or magickal doctrines teach that Mind is the key to Matter, so we need to weigh that in as one of the core assumptions around which Body of Light work is defined. If we did not think that deliberately focusing our Minds in certain ways could amount to significant changes in terms of Matter itself, there would be little point left to any kind of meditation practise at all. It is important to periodically revisit this core assumption to reassess everything it implies. The primary tools of all visualization work are Light and Sound, and why is this? Because Light and Sound are the two most powerful tools the Mind has at its immediate disposal. Beyond this, we actually do know that all gradations...all conditions of matter...are Light/Sound waves vibrating at varying rates and frequencies. What is sometimes difficult to wrap our brains around is that the faculty of Thought itself may ultimately be all that is required to shape or reshape any condition of Matter.

Concurrent to this theme of Thought being the key to Matter is the notion of Right Thinking itself. This is a very important core assumption I want to drive home from the start, because, again, it is an area that has suffered a great deal of damage over time. From the time of the Vedas it has always been maintained that Right Thinking combined with Right Action points the way to Right Destiny itself. But what is "Right Thinking" when the matter tuns to things highly esoteric? Too many times we are spoon-fed explanations and instructions as to how we should proceed that make no natural sense to us, yet we are often told that this is not important...that we can only come to understand these things by doing them without question. While there may be some justification for this in limited doses, the real problem with perpetrating this kind of instruction is that you are not ultimately producing free-thinking individuals who have sorted out their most sensitive personal practises for themselves. In the end you wind up with people who know how to go through the motions but have no real idea what they might mean, since they were never encouraged to ask what they might mean to begin with. You cannot achieve Right Thinking if you do not allow for a full measure of Skepticism and Doubt from the outset. Here in the context of Abrahadabra/Mutational Alchemy, "Right Thinking" means exactly what it should mean...it means asking and answering all the hard questions until you have a very clear and compelling reasons to take "Right Action"...

This could go on but for the time being my objective is to lay down a few essentials pertaining to the Body of Light itself, it's history and its most central core assumptions. For the most part I think I have fairly well done that. I will return in the next segment and begin looking at why Abrahadabra might be anything particularly special...


m1thr0s

MythMath
12-14-2006, 02:14 AM
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Pagan39
12-14-2006, 06:41 AM
Thanks for taking the time out to provide a conceptual framework for newcomers,M1thr0s.As one I really appreciate it...I know it can be a little frustrating to go back when you are so far along a path.So thanks again.
Pagan

feranaja
12-14-2006, 08:13 AM
Well m1thr0s, you've proven here without a doubt that youre not just a brilliant thinker but a gifted teacher. Thank you for clarifying some major confusion in my own mind and doing so in a highly readable and accessible way. An English prof of mine once said that any idiot can make the simple sound confusing but it takes a very sharp mind to make the complicated accessible... congratulations. A lot to think on just in Part One...but, I await Part Two with a reassured sense that I 'll be able to grasp it all.

I sincerely hope there WILL be a book in the works too. For now, thank you for mapping out the basics for us. I now have a context for what previously felt like an impenetrable mass of ideas...the foundational idea is much, much clearer now.

A lot of work there and so beautifully expressed...that was a great pleasure to read .
feranaja

Radiant Star
12-14-2006, 12:12 PM
I have been waiting for a bit more.

Looking forward to the next instalment.

m1thr0s
12-14-2006, 12:28 PM
thanks folks...I gave myself lots of room on this, starting from 001 etc... Hopefully it won't be necessary to totally exhaust that range...lol...

m1thr0s

Kain
12-14-2006, 12:43 PM
Great work :yes:

Kain

oak
12-17-2006, 10:43 AM
i think it has more to do with how we think than what we think. like effortless walking happens when none of muscle fibres receive signals conflicting with the walking, so should the more intricate muscles in our head function. the problematic part is the execution, achieving that effortlessness.

m1thr0s
12-17-2006, 02:06 PM
i think it has more to do with how we think than what we think. like effortless walking happens when none of muscle fibres receive signals conflicting with the walking, so should the more intricate muscles in our head function. the problematic part is the execution, achieving that effortlessness.This is a brilliant insight oak...hold onto it and don't lose it. I will be returning to this very key issue as I move along through these articles, but I want to turn your attention for a moment to the importance of learning to think in terms of logical "scales" of light and sound vibration. I sometimes refer to the hexagrams as "scales of light" because that's really what they are. We know from other logical scales that we employ (like musical scales for instance) that training these in allows the mind to commit them to "autopilot" eventually. It's a way for us to train the autonomic nervous system itself and allows us to run way ahead of the structure of music itself to deal in the more abstract patterns that hover above this whole logical enginery. This is very much what is occuring in this immediate methodology as well...

m1thr0s

oak
12-17-2006, 02:34 PM
thanks for the positive assertion, it's not like this thing gets often talked about, nor mentioned in literature and such, sometimes seen glimpses of it but always heavily shrouded in metaphor.
and no worries, i've held to it for years and am not going to be misplacing it.

looking forward to the continuation of this series.
and thanks for the hint, will be following it.

m1thr0s
12-17-2006, 02:47 PM
thanks for the positive assertion, it's not like this thing gets often talked about, nor mentioned in literature and such, sometimes seen glimpses of it but always heavily shrouded in metaphor.geez...tell me about it...I think this may be because there has been a huge tendency to treat magickal philosophy like an alternative religion, instead of treating it like a branch of mysticism where the emphasis is much more technical in nature...like the tantras, for instance...it's one of the main reasons I began turning my attention to Hermeticism, actually. We can't really undo what has been done with Magick, and perhaps there is no need to...but it doesn't satisfy the needs of probably millions of people who really aren't looking for a new religion anyway...just a more fulfilling model of reality and a greater sense of "right action" in general...

m1thr0s

Logos
12-17-2006, 07:27 PM
m1thr0s,

what is the relationship, if any, between this "Body of Light" and the astral body? This morning, I APed for the seventh time (I'm still practicing) and somehow--I'm kind of sure, but not really--I managed to AP from my astral body. I entered the astral plane the same way I have been, from lying down and then sitting up, and for a while, I was interacting with my environment until, as if out of nowhere, I got an urge to exit my astral body. I took off running with my astral body and leapt out leaving my body behind. I distinctly remember looking back and seeing my prior astral body fall to the ground. So there I was in a very different plane than the astral plane that originally resembled the physical plane. Having no idea I could jump to a different plane by APing from astral body, I am at a loss as to where I was in my second astral body.

So, to end with a question, does my experience have anything to do with the multiple bodies you refer to at the beginning of the thread? Or is this astral body of an astral body something entirely different?

v/s/s/v

m1thr0s
12-17-2006, 07:45 PM
that's an interesting question v/s/s/v and there are different slants on this. Some are quite adamant that they are not the same, some feel they may be at least connected. I think that to some extent it will depend on how you are defining the BoL itself. In this instance, I think that the astral bodies do not actually correspond to the StarBody and my reasoning for this has to do with where the StarBody itself is rooted. In Abrahadabra we have a very lofty thing to get used to...the whole thing emanates directly from Ain Soph Aur (http://home.earthlink.net/~xristos/GoldenDawn/kabalah08.htm) or this exact equivalence. Possibly only trained qabbalists can appreciate just how radical a concept that really is but Abrahadabra itself leaves no doubt on this and we have to acknowledge it because it carries the Tree of Life as a sub-property and it will always be there looking back at you once you've made the connection even once.

And yet, the astral body system traditionally divides into 3 primary divisions, and these divisions have a direct correlation to the Moon Worlds, Sun Worlds, & Lightning Worlds as defined in the Tree of Life. These are sometimes illustrated as descending equilateral triangles with their bases running parallel to the three horizontal paths on the ToL. If we look at the Tibetan Bardos system we find the same essential division of Cosm in the 3 Bardos etc...so there are precedents here that lend credence to the idea that the Astral Bodies may have their basis in the Tree of Life itself.

Yet they are not the TwinStar and they are not the StarBody per se...of this much I am fairly certain. The astral bodies come as part of the package at birth. The TwinStar has to be asserted. It's always there as a potential but until it is asserted, it can't really be said to exist in any kind of practical terms. It is a Body built from Perfect Will itself really...

m1thr0s

Logos
12-17-2006, 09:14 PM
Thanks for the edit/add-on at the end. I'm glad I asked. I see how it would become quite the problem if I were to think in terms of astral bodies as a way of proceeding through your posts.

Now all I have to do is go back and read your segments all over again. :laugh:

m1thr0s
12-17-2006, 09:23 PM
Now all I have to do is go back and read your segments all over again. :laugh:I will say a little prayer for your eyes...:eek:

also: it rather sounds to me as though you moved into a higher rung of the astral body system itself...that's no small feat...you seem to be getting the hang of things. the 3 Grand Divisions are said to consist of divisions within themselves, so it is a little hard to say where you may have been on the map as it were. Owing to the time you have been at it, one would think you were probably still operating within the first Grand Division, or the so-called Moon Worlds. The Higher rungs are typically associated to great altitudes, whereas with the Moon Worlds, Earth itself will still be fairly close at hand...

But who knows...ultimately you'll be the best guage of this yourself of course.

m1thr0s

edit: another thought occurs to me as well on this. It's been awhile since I studied AP but I did make a fairly comprehensive study at one time. It's not my area of special focus and it's not always such a great idea to mix & match every kind of disciplines together etc. But if memory serves, the actual precursor to the astral bodies is, by some schools, called the "etheric double". The etheric double serves a number of purposes and is, in some ways, nature's organic "air-bag" buffer-defense system against untimely departures from the physical body (accidents etc). It is also typically the first thing one encounters in AP experimentation, assuming it all goes well. The etheric double is sometimes portrayed as being physically attached to the body by a "silver chord", yet not all AP accounts have recorded this observation, so it is not certain whether this may only be symbolic or is to be taken literally. In any case, the idea is that it is more intimately "attached" to the physical body than the astral bodies themselves. It is at least possible that you have primarily been experiencing the etheric double, and have just recently discovered how to go beyond it. The first step beyond it would be the first real Astral Body. I think that only subsequent tests will be able to confirm whether this is or is not the case.

Kain
12-18-2006, 02:40 AM
Having experimented quite extensively in this field of different layers/bodies, I must say I interpret your experience exactly in the same way m1thr0s has in the above post v/s/s/v. Also, you may want to try experimenting with directly affecting your physical surroundings through the dense astral/etheric vehicle you have described, as it seems to be the best vantage point for direct energy grounding effects on the physical. For instance, you may want to build a standard pinwheel excercise like those used in elementary psychokinesis.

As for the AP out of the "dense astral"/etheric vehicle, it occurs exactly like that and it usually leads in a higher plane that seems to be a lot more distant from the physical plane, working more in the field of abstract form. Switching between these 3 states again and again, playing them as you would a musical scale of sorts, seems to slowly build them in your mental map as valid and explored co-ordinates and make the transition more direct and full as far as perception is concerned. Like a transition from "manual tuning", which may get a certain station partially to set chanells. It is certainly a great area to experiment on, and usually provides one with a huge amount of new insights to integrate in one's practices. Another interesting field to work on is to check the different modes of conduct and interraction the different "layers" share, how one influences the other(s), and also the way the lower ones seem to be enhanced when working in conscious and full alignment with the higher ones. For me, the "wave theory" ramiffications of these experiences have been perhaps the most compelling, and still are as I am deeply immersed in this sort of practice.

Concerning the difference of the astral body and the StarBody or Body of Light, it has always striked me like the nature of the Body of Light is similar to the "Fourth Body" of Vajrayana...the "Diamond Vehicle" that is built out of consciously and deliberately realizing and integrating the 3 naturally provided bodies (2 subtle and the physical vehicle) in one anatomical construct.

Kain

EDIT: Error out of fast typing on my part I just noticed, as I had written "3 subtle bodies" in the last paragraph, something that is not accurate as the physical vehicle is not considered subtle. So, "3 bodies" is what I meant...

Logos
12-18-2006, 04:24 PM
Thank you. And I don't know if this adds anything of importance to the discussion, but what I'm calling the first astral plane resembled the physical, my apartment, etc. whereas the second astral plane was extremely Catholic in appearance. For instance, there was a grand cathedral that I did not enter, yet it seemed to play an important role in decorating the backyard of a cottage. But this is not about interpreting symbolism.

The point is that, even though I felt the same violent vibration exiting my astral body as I do when I exit my physical body, the Catholic plane that I entered into felt a lot more like a lucid dream than astral projection: I made decisions only to realize after I made them that I was the one who made them.

Lastly, Kain, I can easily see now how the Body of Light would be the product of an alchemical conjunction and how, m1thr0s, your term "mutational" applies to acts of turning one's physical body into a Body of Light rather than simply controlling it the way one would an astral body. I guess what I'm saying is I'm beginning to understand more and more how saying the Body of Light is an astral body makes no sense whatsoever in terms of Mutational Alchemy and why the term "mutational" is significant.

v/s/s/v

m1thr0s
12-18-2006, 09:55 PM
I have yet to be able to identify any historical reference to the "influence" of en soph, ain soph, ain soph aur etc which drives me a little crazy. The "influence" of Crown is called "mezla", and may perhaps have other names as well but I have yet to see any reference to the influence of en soph directly...

This is a little annoying because it would very much help if we knew what to call it exactly. I know it's not the same thing as Chi for instance, nor Kundalini precisely, yet both these terms have their place and certainly parallel this energy. But in the end, they are not the same thing exactly...

So the search goes on. If anybody happens to run into some reference on this it would be very helpful to post it here or somewhere on these forums...

edit: I do know of at least one term that may give us the clue:
The ten Sephirot are transformers of energy, breaking it down until it becomes completely materialised. As a preliminary to this structuring of energy, the Qabala recognises two double equations of infinite energy: Ayn-Sof and Aur-Aëlion. In Hebrew Ayn-Sof means "without end," or "infinite," and Aur-Aëlion means "light," the highest or uplifted state of mind.link: Aur-Aëlion (http://www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/sy/ayn-sof.html)

m1thr0s

Kain
12-19-2006, 03:44 PM
Lastly, Kain, I can easily see now how the Body of Light would be the product of an alchemical conjunction and how, m1thr0s, your term "mutational" applies to acts of turning one's physical body into a Body of Light rather than simply controlling it the way one would an astral body. I guess what I'm saying is I'm beginning to understand more and more how saying the Body of Light is an astral body makes no sense whatsoever in terms of Mutational Alchemy and why the term "mutational" is significant. Great, I'm glad you found this helpful v/s/s/v. Also, yes, you're quite right in linking this with Alchemical Conjuction and with your made point concerning the importance of "Mutation" in all this.

So the search goes on. If anybody happens to run into some reference on this it would be very helpful to post it here or somewhere on these forums...I am very aware myself of this influence in practical application as you know m1thr0s, although I still haven't found anything "formally defined" on this yet. I will certainly post any findings I may encounter.

Kain

m1thr0s
12-19-2006, 05:16 PM
Check this out Kain (and everybody). I think it may actually be "Mezla".
Here's a little post I found written by Bill Heidrick himself...one of the few real scholars in the OTO...(link (http://www.luckymojo.com/esoteric/religion/judaism/kabbalah/9407.mezla--.bh))

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Mezla is a term in Luria (16th century) Qabalah. In that context, it
refers to the reminent of the universal creative light from which all
things are made. According to Luria, the universe was filled with
undifferentiated Light (Ain Soph Aur). This gathered in places and thined
in others, never being fully absent anywhere. The gathering of this Light
into higher intensity led by additional stages to the creation of the
universe. Within the universe, the light is further gathered to the point
of solidity and thined to the point of apparent void. In the void,
eternal light yet remains, called Mezla. This Mezla is not visible (='s
undetectable as an idea or concept), but it is the means whereby all the
universe is kept in existence and united to the infinite Light beyond.
Light in this context is used to represent that which cannot be described
--- yet the idea of Light is as close as a human mind may come to it.

Crowley tended to use "Mezla" incorrectly or haphazardly as "The
influence descending from Kether" ---- this usage is only correct when
Kether is understood to be an idea nearly the same as Ain Soph Aur; and
that is not the usage always given for "Kether", especially by Crowley.
This inappropriate simplification of "Mezla" has led it to be identified
with the paths connecting the Sephirot on the Tree of Life ---- whereas
those paths and the Sephirot themselves are more traditionally said to
"emerge from Mezla". Grant appears to have gone further in this
alteration of the significance and meaning of the term, to the point that
his usage includes imaginary Qlipoth and excludes the omnipresent Light
that is the original meaning of "Mezla".

Mezla and Mazloth (Zodiac) are not derived from the same Hebrew root.
The latter does mean "paths" as in "paths of the planets" and (modern
Hebrew) train tracks. This is possibly a contributing *influence* (real
meaning of Mezla!) to the *confusion* (real meaning of Qliphot = shells).
All in all, the philological confusion is a very good illustration of the
nature and development of the Qliphot!

93 93/93
Bill Heidrickm1thr0s

m1thr0s
12-20-2006, 03:35 AM
So this is an important little discussion he has started here and the problem we will immediately run into researching Mezla itself on the internet is that the vast majority of people posting there are already drawing from Crowley's "inappropriate" definitions. But it tells us that we have two very important things to consider with respect to the energy we are drawing down from Apex in Abrahdabra. The specific Tree that we find defined in Abrahadabra is not without precedent. It is clearly depicted in one of the more well known Tree arrangements we have on record, namely the Kircher Tree as depicted in the following thumbnail:
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This tree arrangement has its limitations. It is not symmetrical to the four worlds geometry for instance and its paths are not to be taken as written in stone either. What is important is that, unlike many other Tree arrangements we so often see, it does at least aknowledge the relationship of the Lurianic notion of Ain Soph Aur in what it calls the Horizon of Eternity. Most Tree arrangements omit this altogether and if a justification were to be made for this it would probably be that this "sepheroth" is not a sepheroth at all and therefor not on the Tree anyway. This is actually a useless defense against the charge of false representation, since without this original source there would simply be no Tree of Life at all. Abrahadabra corrects this issue and places Ain Soph Aur back on the map, and actually defines a whole new map employing the Tetractys of the Decad to insure that it finally stays put. The Tetractys of the Decad defines ten sepheroth as well, but defines them in a different context to the Tree, which context I have come to call the the TwinStar, or otherwise simply the StarBody system. It doesn't actually need the Tree of Life to define or justify itself at all, but as fate would have it, the two things appear to be mutually compatable.

People who take up this discipline need to get used to the fact that we have a fairly complex task set before us here since everything we will be building is ultimately tapping this original sourcepoint and also returning to it. This energy is very very subtle. It is not like the explosive energy of Kundalini nor the charismatic energy of Chi. It is not even rooted in "breath" at all specifically, yet is able to come into perfect compliance with all other forms of Mind & Matter. We cannot see this Mezla with our naked eye and even the light of Ain Soph Aur is a light higher than eyesight. It is typically only detectable at intervals, yet can achieve "surges" from time to time, enough to let us know that something is actually going on there. Occasionally these surges can become quite pronounced, but the whole scene routinely smoothes itself out again and we are right back to being barely able to detect anything at all.

So in that respect, this is not necessarily an easy kind of practise. What we need is a way to keep the energy moving more or less all the time, and this is where Mutational Alchemy comes to bear, because it defines a mechanism capable of achieving this. To a lesser extent, all unicursal sigils that can effectively unite the whole anatomical Body of Light system also simulate this kind of omnipresent enginery, so this is another avenue we have to explore and work with. But in the final analysis we need more than fancy ropework alone...we need a Whole Mind System of some kind that can be set in motion and kept in motion pretty much all the time. Because one of the things we can observe about this Mezla is that it is indistinguishable from Intelligence itself at the highest levels. The light of Mezla and the Light of Perfect Consciousness appear to be one and the same by all discernable accounts. This would, of course make perfect sense if Mezla itself is a blend of Ain-Soph (The Boundless, or Infinite) and Aur-Aëlion (Intelligence, Light) as predicted by the qabbalists, and Isaac Luria in particular.

m1thr0s

Logos
12-20-2006, 08:31 AM
If the Body of Light is separate from the rest of me in that I need to perform an alchemical conjunction in order to I-can't-think-of-a-verb-that-won't-jeopardize-my-point it, then why does it fit so nicely over the Tree of Life? If you ask me, the fact that Abrahadabra fits so nicely with the Tree of Life means the Body of Light is already there. It's simply a matter of recognizing its presence. My gut tells me your metaphysical adherence to inherent separation is unnecessary. If I needed to "go find" the Body of Light, then why does Abrahadabra coincide with the Tree of Life so succinctly?

Might it be the case that the Body of Light is right under my nose and that my asking questions (and that everything else I do in life, for that matter) is a product of my Body of Light in one way or another?

If the Twin Star is an inherent part of Abrahadabra, then would not the Twin Star already be there, right under my nose in the sense that my soul or my Chi or the electromagnetic fieid produced by the frequency of my brain waves is?

It seems to me that my Body of Light is even closer than my astral body--that is, of course, if I understand the geometry correctly.

In my opinion, your proofs say more than you say they say. In my opinion, your proofs prove the fact that there is no Tree of Life without Abrahadabra, so how can it be that the Body of Light is that far removed from the body discussed via the Tree of Life?

v/s/s/v

m1thr0s
12-20-2006, 01:32 PM
I don't remember asserting that the Body of Light was separate from anybody or anything. In any case, that is not my intentional assertion. It is quite obviously "there already" at the level of the physics itself.

But it is also important to note that we really have two sepherotic systems working here and not just one. We have the 10 sepheroth as they unfold along the Tree and we also have the 10 sepheroth as they onfold within the Tetractys. All available evidence points to the conclusion that the Tetractys system is set above the Tree system in terms of energy. One of the ways we can know this has to do with how the sepheroth themselves are positioned in the Tetractys, where "10" resides at "Unity" at the core of the structure, very unlike the way it exists at Feet level in the Tree of Life. Another way to look at it has to do with the lack of any direct pathways from 1 to 0 points within the Tree itself. In Abrahadabra, these pathways do exist, but in the Tree itself there is no such "path" at all. The Tree is rooted in Crown while the Abrahadabra Grid is rooted in the Triune Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur directly (if we go with Lurianic doctrine on this coordinates). The TwinStar runs very specific pathways to and from this Apex point. The Tree simply does not do this but assumes Crown as a "first manifestation" of this property. There are a number of other important clues as well, such as the fact that the TwinStar's physical baseline is set just above Earth on the Tree, reinforcing the idea that it is really rooted in the above. The whole thing seems to assume a kind of Macrocosm relationship to the Tree of Life as a whole.

I also cannot agree that the Tree does not exist without the Tetractys, or the Abrahadabra Grid in total. These are independant systems that happen to share a kind of symbiotic relationship, and the best known parallel to this in mathematics is the Binary and Ternary hexagrams of the Far East. The Binary is a perfectly independant system just as the ternary is, yet ultimately the binary is also a subset of the ternary. That doesn't mean that it does not exist without it. It exists quite independantly on its own merits, yet when the context shifts to the ternary, the binary can be identified as a subset within its framework.

I have already said that the TwinStar exists at the level of "potential" which should imply that it is there already, but nevertheless requires conscious activation to become strong or readily accessable. If this were not the case, it would be difficult to understand why it is only just now coming to light...if it has been there all along (and I agree that it has), why are we only just now consciously perceiving it? I believe that the answer to this is that it has to be consciously aknowledged and acted upon to have any "practical" existence for us at all. Somehow, the simple act of recognizing it is enough to ignite it. But this is not enough to amount to any kind of dominance in the overall scheme of things. That takes a much more concerted effort on our parts. We have to be able to resolve its mysteries and we have to be able to engage its properties in an active and conscious sort of way or it remains...for all practical intents and purposes...a "ghost image" somehow adjacent to the Tree of Life.

My "opinion" is that the TwinStar, largely because of how it is rooted, can only really be activated as an act of conscious Will. All of the information I have tells me this and all of my experience tells me this. It's still just an opinion, but it is one that has served me well and I see no reason to ammend it for the moment. It may be different for you, or perhaps your approach to things is sufficiently different that we cannot quite agree at the level of rhetoric. Ultimately whatever works for you works for you, so I am not trying to assert what "is" in any kind of absolute way. You asked for an opinion (I think) and that's exactly what I gave you.

m1thr0s

Logos
12-20-2006, 04:56 PM
Thank you. And I do apologize if any of my questions came out sounding rude. It just seems obvious to me that whoever devised the Tree of Life must have had access to an eleven-unit equilateral triangle and must have based (the current form of) the Tree of Life upon it. I think that's more of what I was trying to get at when I said there is no Tree of Life without Abrahadabra: isn't it possible that a group of secretive Rabbis from way back when based the Tree of Life on an equilateral triangle and that without that triangle as there basis the Tree of Life would not exist in its current form?

Now whether or not those rabbis used Abrahadabra, a different word, or simply points as their basis is another question entirely. For one, whatever word they used, if they used one, would have been written from right to left, so where you put h's they would've put d's. And if they did use a word instead of points, the order in which the letters appear could have played a major role in describing the Body of Light because, as we all know, each letter corresponds to a number and the Rabbis use those correspondences to mathematically derive their interpretations of scripture.

I took a class in college a few years back taught by a Rabbi. He went to great lengths the first two weeks of class to point out that the original Hebrew Old Testament contains no vowels. So where many of us typically agree that "In the beginning there was God...," many Rabbis do not. Because once you insert the vowels you get a few options, namely, "In the beginning there was God..." and "Before the beginning there was God..." This is hugely important to the point there are various sects within Judaism: some say "Before" because God had to exist before the beginning in order for the beginning to take place; others say "In" because God came into being in the beginning. One group uses one set of numbers to derive and argue for one interpretation; another group uses other numbers to derive and argue for a different interpretation.

What this tells me, if we consider the possibility that the Rabbis of old knew about this, is that the locations of the letters on the grid, and surely they would have appeared from right to left, play a major role in interpreting both what you call the Body of Light and the Tree of Life.

Your proofs are far too perfect to not imply prior knowledge of the triangular scheme that coincides so nicely with the Tree of Life. I'm saying your proofs imply that the Abrahadabra grid, even if Abrahadabra wasn't the word they used, was mapped out and agreed upon before the Tree of Life was mapped out and agreed upon.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you visited a group of old Rabbis and showed them the Abrahadabra/Tree glyph and they nodded their heads and smiled and then proceeded to replace Abrahadabra with an old Hebrew word from right to left and a whole new world of synchronicities opened up.

v/s/s/v

m1thr0s
12-20-2006, 05:23 PM
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you visited a group of old Rabbis and showed them the Abrahadabra/Tree glyph and they nodded their heads and smiled and then proceeded to replace Abrahadabra with an old Hebrew word from right to left and a whole new world of synchronicities opened up.well, actually, I've already played around with that quite a bit, and, yes, there is no reason to be fixated on Abrahadabra...the word...alone. It's an exemplary word but other words are definitely possible. Following Pythagoras's notion of the "eleven gradations of the Tetractys", for instance, we find that the so-called "Word of Perfection" itself unfolds exactly 11 times in Abrahdabra, being a 6-letter word connecting to 66 grid points from top to bottom. The possibilities here are endless...

I agree with your "intuition" on this v/s/s/v but I should also point out that there are several historical complications. The "geometrical tree" arrangement that we are all accustomed to seeing is not at all the kind of Tree we find in ancient qabbalistic texts, when we very rarely do find it depicted pictorially. The Tree of Life arrangement corresponding geometrically to the Four-Worlds appears to have come down to us from...once again...Isaac Luria. Previous to his time you really cannot point to any specific examples of it anywhere.

So this is a complication. It doesn't tell us resolutely that the Tree was not originally constructed on the Abrahadabra (ish) matrix, but there is simply no physical record of this achievement that we can specifically identify...and no mention of the two systems coexisting in the same space/time coordinates that we know of. That's a pretty huge omission and not like the Hebrew pattern of recording virtually everything. Such a thing would have been a very powerful doctrine...very compelling and very attractive to the sharpest eyes and wits on the planet I think. If they knew about all of this, why is there nothing at all recorded of it?

Many mysteries...and maybe some of these will yet be resolved, but in the meantime I think we have to attack the important issues on the basis of the information that we do have right in front of us...

I appreciate your challenges v/s/s/v...I always have. So long as we don't stop hearing each other it's all to the greater good, man...

m1thr0s

Logos
12-20-2006, 05:35 PM
Maybe it is in the old texts. It is the case that half of what the Rabbis taught newcomers was by word of mouth alone. So maybe the tree existed on paper in the form of an eleven-letter word and it wasn't until the Rabbis gathered in person that how to derive the Tree from the Word came up.

All I know is there's something really nice about the phrase, "the Tree from the Word." Which is really what makes your whole paradigm so beautiful.

Makes me wonder if I learned my Hebrew if I wouldn't find some very special eleven-letter word reoccurring all over the place in those texts you mention. And that the math would work out wonderfully if I turned it into a triangle.

v/s/s/v

m1thr0s
12-20-2006, 05:52 PM
we have other possibilities too you know. There is a very good chance this whole thing may have come out of Thebes and filtered down through Hermes Trismegistus etc. That's as far back as we can really track Abrahadabra itself anyway...to the early gnostics who we know borrowed many things from the Hermetics. We find Trees of Life going all the way back to Mesopotamia, so who really knows just how old this formula might really be...We also have good reason to believe that Pythagoras was in touch with the mathematics and metaphysics of Ancient China, so there is a whole other mystery going on in that area...so many things that hint of its previous existence, and yet if I had not devised it all from scratch...right here and now...none of us would be looking at any of it. Even so, I have always felt like I was recovering information moreso than devising it anew...

m1thr0s

Logos
12-20-2006, 06:26 PM
Hermes Trismegistus and Pythagoras, you say? Well, that's a relief, even if they weren't bearded Rabbis.

I guess I'm just too much of a Romantic at heart to not gravitate toward images of terribly ancient geniuses standing tall at the summit of Mt. Alchemy.

v/s/s/v

Kain
12-20-2006, 08:25 PM
Great discussion people...I agree with all put forth until now. Also, m1thr0s, the quote on "Mezla" is incredibly similar in properties to what we're tracking I think, awesome description on the author's part. If the Body of Light is separate from the rest of me in that I need to perform an alchemical conjunction in order to I-can't-think-of-a-verb-that-won't-jeopardize-my-point it, then why does it fit so nicely over the Tree of Life? If you ask me, the fact that Abrahadabra fits so nicely with the Tree of Life means the Body of Light is already there. It's simply a matter of recognizing its presence. My gut tells me your metaphysical adherence to inherent separation is unnecessary. If I needed to "go find" the Body of Light, then why does Abrahadabra coincide with the Tree of Life so succinctly?

Might it be the case that the Body of Light is right under my nose and that my asking questions (and that everything else I do in life, for that matter) is a product of my Body of Light in one way or another?

If the Twin Star is an inherent part of Abrahadabra, then would not the Twin Star already be there, right under my nose in the sense that my soul or my Chi or the electromagnetic fieid produced by the frequency of my brain waves is?

It seems to me that my Body of Light is even closer than my astral body--that is, of course, if I understand the geometry correctly. Well, v/s/s/v, here you put forth a question on temporal terms although I think that a co-ordinate such as the Grid's apex is clearly atemporal in essence, at least in the sense that "time" can be said to begin only after it's Manifestation and unfoldment. Thus, if this is true for the coordinate in question, it would certainly be so as well for the construct/Body that directly taps into it, as it partakes of it's properties. So, with this in mind, this would have us assert that the Body of Light indeed is already there for us, and in fact has ever been and will always be there, perhaps the only part of us that never left us from the very Beginning. However, since our current perception, strive and action functions from a point of view that is essentially temporal in nature, it seems that we also have to consciously learn and build this vehicle from scratch in order to attain it properly (something that m1thr0s already hinted at). In this sense, depending on our point of view concerning time and point of identification within time, this can be termed like a "remembrance" of an already attained state or like a building of a valid potential state, existing only as a possible future for us.

So, the Tree of Life could be seen as a functioning and semi-independant system/entity, as long as Time has already been defined. The coordinate that initiated or unfolded the very fabric of Time however, also destined to be the only one for things to ultimately return to after the re-integration of it all on the "end" of the said fabric, essentially precedes the Tree itself from what we see, making the Tree an internal projection of it, a sequential unfoldment (which presupposes the introduction of the Time factor) of it Below. In this sense, the TwinStar and StarBody or Body of Light could function as the intermediate state or bridge between the temporal and atemporal/celestial environments, a state that manages to reconcile Manifestation/Form/Existance along with maintaining, at the same time, a direct link/connection with the atemporal state of Boundless Light.

Kain

MythMath
12-20-2006, 10:56 PM
The symbol of the Tree of Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life) may be derived from the Flower of Life.

The FOL symbol is over six millenia old.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_life#_note-0)

The apex of the image locates Ain etal...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Tree-of-Life_Flower-of-Life_Stage.jpg
from: wikipedia

silentjohn
12-21-2006, 12:08 AM
The symbol of the Tree of Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life) may be derived from the Flower of Life.

The FOL symbol is over six millenia old.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_life#_note-0)

The apex of the image locates Ain etal...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Tree-of-Life_Flower-of-Life_Stage.jpg
from: wikipedia

So yeah, trees grow, right?

m1thr0s
12-21-2006, 12:23 AM
Good work MythMath...leading to a very relevant point. In the entire history of Sacred Geometry, we might be able to extrapolate the ToL from dozens, hundreds, maybe thousands of such images. The Flower of Life is one of my favorites although I didn't know it was actually that old. But when we begin speculating as to ToL origins, it's very useful to look at all these kinds of possibilities.

One thing to bear in mind about the Qabbalistic Tree of Life is that its geometry is never specified in the Sepher Yetzirah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepher_Yetzirah) nor any of the classical Qabbalistic canons. Neither the Sepheroth nor the Paths are defined according to their geometry, so we don't really have any kind of doctrinal basis for any of this stemming from Qabbalah itself. We're pretty much on our own in that respect.

This is just one of the reasons I am very hesitant to assert that one derives from the other regarding Tree/Star geometries. It's one thing to assert a viable Set/Subset relationship, since that can be demonstrated in numerous relevant ways. It's quite another to say that one derives from the other. For that we need historical evidence and historical evidence is unfortunately among the flakiest evidence you'll ever hope to meet...

That doesn't mean we can't speculate. Speculation is fun up to a point and often brings out other relevant informations in the process. It only very rarely leads to any kind of validatable conclusions.

edit: I've been breaking down some of the internal properies of the FoL and discovered an interesting thing I think. While it does not give us the whole 418 Grid (in other words, the 418 Grid does not fit neatly within the circle), it does correspond exactly to the symmetry of the TwinStar itself. An equilateral triangle stemming from the top of the uppermost ring will square off exactly mid-way between Sepheroths 9 & 10, the same as the TwinStar. Unfortunately you need the whole Grid to lower that foundation line to run directly through Sepheroth 10 itself. Still, it's interesting that the TwinStar fits this pattern exactly. One of the things this tells us is that we are looking at an expression of energy as it would be experienced astrally. It unfortunately does not really have the grounding capabilities of Abrahadabra itself...there is nothing there to secure that energy or draw it down to Earth specifically. The TwinStar has the same essential limitation, which is why we need the eleven-tiered grid in general...it gives us the ability to draw everything down to earth, where it's actually needed the most. Unlike the Flower, the TwinStar actually consolidates and streamlines the combined inertias of Tree & Star. The Flower is like a snap-shot of the energy environment itself, while the TwinStar is a glyph defining its mastery and outlining the rules for harnessing that environment. The Final Centering & Grounding actions we perform on the greater 418 Grid essentially draw that all down to meet us exactly where we stand.

It is often the case with Sacred Geometry itself that we find very useful images defining what is there without telling us anything at all regarding what to do about it. This is something to be aware of when studying these geometries in general. There are really very few geometries of any kind that inform us of anything regarding movement, and subsequently, action. This is one of the important distinctions regarding the TwinStar geometry...it informs us of a symmetry in action, which then addresses things like assimilation, consolidation, aquisition, and so on...

m1thr0s

m1thr0s
12-21-2006, 01:10 PM
So, the Tree of Life could be seen as a functioning and semi-independant system/entity, as long as Time has already been defined. The coordinate that initiated or unfolded the very fabric of Time however, also destined to be the only one for things to ultimately return to after the re-integration of it all on the "end" of the said fabric, essentially precedes the Tree itself from what we see, making the Tree an internal projection of it, a sequential unfoldment (which presupposes the introduction of the Time factor) of it Below. In this sense, the TwinStar and StarBody or Body of Light could function as the intermediate state or bridge between the temporal and atemporal/celestial environments, a state that manages to reconcile Manifestation/Form/Existance along with maintaining, at the same time, a direct link/connection with the atemporal state of Boundless Light.That's a very power-packed commentary Kain...it's great to see you tackling the time issue as hard as you are. There's a LOT going on there and it's not an easy thing to wrap our brains around as a rule. I think you are doing a great job of this so far...

m1thr0s

Kain
12-21-2006, 04:27 PM
That's a very power-packed commentary Kain...it's great to see you tackling the time issue as hard as you are. There's a LOT going on there and it's not an easy thing to wrap our brains around as a rule. I think you are doing a great job of this so far...

m1thr0sThank you m1thr0s, your feedback is much appreciated and am very glad you feel this way about my approach. This is a very important subject and it needs to be addressed properly I think...

Kain

m1thr0s
12-21-2006, 07:40 PM
I don't really have time right now to recreate the Flower of Life, but this image demonstrates how the TwinStar coordinates with it: The inner (dashed) circle is where the Flower resides on the 418 Grid, which occupies the exact same dimensions as the TwinStar...

http://abrahadabra.com/images/weaving001.gif

m1thr0s

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 04:27 AM
I don't usually opt for shortcuts but this one is irresistable. Here's a "mirror" I just can't pass up. This thing should prove very useful at "burning" the TwinStar into your brain on a cellular level. If you're not ready for that...I suggest you just "don't look at that damn star"!

http://abrahadabra.com/images/twinstar003.jpg


color optics rocks...:cool:

If you really study this image you'll begin to get a glimpse of what I am addressing when I emphasize the TwinStar's relationship to action. If you happen to have learned the basic 1-10 meditation excercise...so much the better...it's the best way to really delve into the whole dynamic going on here. Here in this image, the Flower is essentially laying in the structure of the Universe itself, while the TwinStar is making it dance...it infuses Motion into things by its very nature. Among the benefits we derive from this are consolidation and energy amplification...we are able to build a powerful charge on the "circuitry" laid in via the Flower. The Flower itself can do a little of this simply because the very act of looking at it tends to set things in motion. What the TwinStar really does is maximize that kind of action...it's "maximum inertia - minimum stress" in a symbol...

m1thr0s

Logos
12-22-2006, 07:38 AM
It's amazing how quickly the twinstar and triangle disappear, which is great because it obviously makes it easier for the twinstar to do its thing without anything getting in its way.

v/s/s/v

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 07:48 AM
I think I actually like this way of expressing the Tree relationship better than anything I have worked with yet...it's all there if you need it but it's also not in your face. I've had a lot of trouble with the Tree. The Tree is, afterall, a lot of trouble...

The Flower is a potent tool...that's easy enough to discern...

Now here's a scary bit of numerological synchronism...I have counted several times now and appear to get a total of 19 spheres making up the whole Flower. The TwinStar has exactly 19 Paths, counting all lines connected between 2 points.

uh-oh....:stars: Somebody better check my count...that's right out of the Twilight Zone or something...
edit: the number 19 has been called the "number of manifestation", but I have never been satisfied as to why that should be...the proofs I have seen are mostly too weak to support it. Now all of a sudden I think I may understand it...

m1thr0s

Kain
12-22-2006, 09:41 AM
Now here's a scary bit of numerological synchronism...I have counted several times now and appear to get a total of 19 spheres making up the whole Flower. The TwinStar has exactly 19 Paths, counting all lines connected between 2 points.

uh-oh....:stars: Somebody better check my count...that's right out of the Twilight Zone or something...
edit: the number 19 has been called the "number of manifestation", but I have never been satisfied as to why that should be...the proofs I have seen are mostly too weak to support it. Now all of a sudden I think I may understand it...

m1thr0sWell, it really does add to 19 spheres...:yes: :laugh:

Awesome mirror and find, I love it...also, yeah, calling it the "number of manifestation" makes a lot of sense if you look at in this fashion.

Kain

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 02:21 PM
I think that's about as close to "Soul-Mates" as you're ever likely to see...we better marry these two lovebirds off I think. Otherwise the neighbors will start in with their damn gossip...:mad: :laugh:

Thanks for the spot-check Kain...is that a trip or what? She's a little bit older than he is, like by 6000 years...

Ng is beside him/herself...He/She just loves weddings...and at Solstice too!

m1thr0s

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 03:05 PM
Here's a version that looks a little more classically "occult" I think:
Seems to class as a "Silver Star" (ie, A .'. A .'.) variation of its own particular kind and caliber...

http://abrahadabra.com/images/twinstar004.jpg

This is bizarre...but also a great example of why we really need community...people tip the balance for each other in all kinds of amazing ways...If MM hadn't brought this up I might not have noticed it for another 20 years!

Guess we better invite him to the wedding...lol

Uncle MM...

oh well...now everybody knows I'm crazy...like it was some big mystery anyway...

like a fox...

m1thr0s

Amur
12-22-2006, 03:54 PM
I think that's about as close to "Soul-Mates" as you're ever likely to see...we better marry these two lovebirds off I think. Otherwise the neighbors will start in with their damn gossip...:mad: :laugh:


Try the concept of Twin Flames. Basically we are the other half also. Like double dragons spinning upward who are the same tail. I suppose one cycle is a very long time and even one touch can be quite overwhelming due to the Spark it gives.

Kain
12-22-2006, 04:17 PM
Nice...the second version looks great! And it's Solstice also, good point...very fitting...hehe...

Kain

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Try the concept of Twin Flames. Basically we are the other half also. Like double dragons spinning upward who are the same tail. I suppose one cycle is a very long time and even one touch can be quite overwhelming due to the Spark it gives.you want me to barbecue the neighbors? that's just not done at weddings!:eek:

Nice...the second version looks great! And it's Solstice also, good point...very fitting...hehe...
formal attire...:cool:

m1thr0s

Radiant Star
12-22-2006, 04:20 PM
Try the concept of Twin Flames. Basically we are the other half also. Like double dragons spinning upward
Especially not barbecue the dragons :no:

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 04:29 PM
so...anybody having any trouble visualizing "stars" at this point?

maybe I can sort of move on from that discussion a bit...

although there's always more to discuss at the level of what kind of stars I think...

m1thr0s

MythMath
12-22-2006, 07:32 PM
For the benefit of those of us who are not experienced,
please detail again the process; the ley line engineering...

Thanks...

m1thr0s
12-22-2006, 08:11 PM
The 10-point meditation is laid out elsewhere on this site but I think it is probably too fragmented to be fully understandable to beginners...

I will need to start another thread just to lay this out from the beginning...Look for Essentials 003 within the next few days...it requires some graphics to lay it all out even though it is ultimately quite simple...powerful...but simple...and there's a number of underlying principles that need to be understood as well. the TwinStar makes use of a numerical supersymmetry such as we find in magical squares etc. You have to understand why that matters...or at least be able to imagine the difference that it makes. A few other important variables are also involved...all the rules for trigrammal fields are contained in the basic 10-point meditation excercise.

But ultimately a kid can do the basic meditation...it's not all that complicated once you know the basic strategy...

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum
01-16-2007, 07:17 PM
Whew. I Finally had the time to start reading these posts. Those last images of the twinstar on the FoL are great...the first really seems to dance with energy on the screen.

So I have a very basic question. I do alot of what I have called body of light work..envisioning the ToL over my 'astral body" or in my BoL...and various symbols on that tree (for example the ankh, the flaming sword etc). Is it proper to term this body of light work? It doesn't seem like AP and is very theurgic in nature.

m1thr0s
01-16-2007, 08:42 PM
well sure fr. novum, I would certainly think so at any rate. This whole star thing really pretty much crept up on me over time. For many years the Tree of Life was my principle focus, although I was always looking for the star-connection in that framework. What ultimately distinguished the Tetractys and Mutational Alchemy for me personally was its efficiency in Tree of Life work initially. Little by little the Tree began to take more of a back-seat to the kinds of things that were emerging via the Tetractys which asserts its own system of Sepheroth and paths and so on. But from where I am sitting it's all connected, only now I find myself being able to operate very effectively outside the Tree framework completely, not reliant upon qabbalah or any of its immediate tenets necessarily. But it's still all connected and all of it is Body of Light work so far as I understand the term at least...

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum
01-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Thanks that clears things up. I wanted to make sure my terms wouldn't throw any white noise into these great discussions.

m1thr0s
01-17-2007, 02:01 PM
not at all. the doctrine of Adam Kadmon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kadmon) from the Zohar itself clearly qualifies the Tree of Life as a Body of Light standard, since the whole thing is based on emanations of Ain Soph Aur (The Boundless Light) to begin with.

I have posted this elsewhere but it warrants a little repetition:
http://home.earthlink.net/~xristos/GoldenDawn/kabalah08.htm

This is a good, concise overview of Lurianic Qabbalah...

Here's another invaluable little article:
http://www.psyche.com/psyche/lex/sy/ayn-sof.html

outlining the principles of Ain Soph (Boundless Nothing) and Aur Aëlion (Infinite Light)

m1thr0s

fr.novumorganum
06-03-2007, 08:10 PM
i was just re-reading these links and this time through the following concept jumped out at me:


Zimzum (Contraction / Inhalation)


The first concept that is uniquely Lurianic is the idea of zimzum, by which Luria envisioned the Ain Soph mystically inhaling or drawing in the Light of the unimaginable Ain, and exhaling or emitting this Light -- subtly but profoundly transformed -- as the seed of Kether. From here the first Universe was emanated.



Over the past day or so I've been re-reading all the various threads in this sub-forum, and this really resonated to me with the concepts of trigrammaton and jan lines. Specifically the diuscussion of the jan line serving as a mediator/transformer between ying and yang energies. In the trigrammaton article, m1thr0s positined man as that jan between yin and yang, and while reading the above quote I had an insight of a mirror/ as above so below image here, where the ain soph is a jan between ain and ain soph aur. Probably totally off the wall, but felt like I had to at least share.

m1thr0s
06-03-2007, 08:22 PM
off the map I think...not so much off the wall. The triangulation of "Nothing" is a fascinating sort of paradox in itself. It strikes me as something only humans could possible come up with (in this neck of the woods anyway)...

There's a couple of approaches to this. If you stack them, you would usually get a kind of trigram configuration with ain-->ain soph-->ain soph aur running vertically. In that configuration ain soph would seem to be in the position of the Man (Jen) line. Yet we are more or less led to conclude that it is ain soph aur that is at root to it all which then places it at center in circular arrangements as also at apex in triadic ones. In that case ain & ain soph assume more of a yin & yang relationship and it is actually ain soph aur that is the most central. I tend to be less convinced of the linear approach personally. I have a very difficult time imagining nothing as a stack of pancakes, so if I had to bet money on it I think I would come down on the idea of ain soph aur being most like the Jen. I'm not sure anybody will ever win or lose that particular wager though!

m1thr0s

deviadah
07-19-2007, 07:51 PM
Swedenborg often went to the other side during trance and his accounts of the afterlife realm is closely they mirror the descriptions offered by modern-day Near Death Experiencers.

He mentions a dazzling light that emitted a feeling of love, appearing before beings of light, and being enveloped by an all-encompassing peace and serenity.

Conclusions:
Body of Light = the Great Work Complete = we all get there in death = some aim for Nirvana on Earth = make sense or right out wacko?

Naomi
07-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Nirvana on a global scale is the whole point of the return. (Boddhisattva Siddhartha tells us once you attain Nirvana you can choose to depart the earthly plane or come back - no judgement for either choice is given by him.) It is theoretically possible. The earth is millions of years old, and that's not pocketchange, I don't care who you are. That's a LOT of motions. It makes for some great stories though.

System has to give sooner or later though. It just has to. There's nothing in the universe that would allow this to go on forever.

Yeah, the body of light. We have a long ways to go as a planet but acceleration is feasible, especially with today's resources. We just have to work hard and listen to wisdom.

m1thr0s
07-19-2007, 09:49 PM
We have a long ways to go as a planet but acceleration is feasible, especially with today's resources. We just have to work hard and listen to wisdom.yes...this is all true. It is also true that this planet has reached a global crisis status I typically refer to as *redline*. Nature is well known to respond to these kinds of special circumstances by opening up transmutational windows not ordinarily accessible to species. But if you're not open to this...if you're not actively seeking out these rare windows of opportunity, it's not going to impact you at all.

I realize of course that every generation seems to think they are on the edge of global anihilation and that's not what I am saying here...at least not exactly. Some things we are facing are statistically irreversaible however at this point and will simply not be improving no matter what we pretend might be possible. Polution is one, overpopulation another, depleted resources a third...at this moment in time every human on the planet registers on a standard geiger counter due to thinly dispersed radioactive fallout over the years etc... Entropy is taking its toll and will continue to do so. Politics and Corporate greed will only intensify the inevitable.

This time is ripe for transhumanists...these are the kinds of conditions that put nature squarely behind us if our objective is to find some workable way of springing the trap and/or leaving the cozy nest... That nest is already disintegrating all around us...and in a weird sort of way...that's all quite perfect. So we still have to work within the laws of nature but nature itself is especially motivated to facilitate a solution at this time. If humankind goes down the hard way it's likely to take everything else down with it. This much we must certainly know about our selfish and sado-masochistic species.

m1thr0s

Naomi
07-19-2007, 11:17 PM
Ok. So, m1thr0s, what you're saying is disaster is inevitable, yes? Something in the future is going to happen that's going to overwhelm humanity as a whole - the sixth extinction finally returning on the instruments of its onslaught - us.

Something is interesting about gypsy and native american people. They all warn about the impending apocalypse. Native americans especially arn't really keen on the whole "Save the Planet" and "Recycle" schtick. They're realists and fatalists. As far as they are concerned, the right way of living has already gone to hell in a handbasket - no sense in struggling to keep up with a past that is quickly fading into oblivion. The buffalo is gone, the whales are vanishing, the salmon people are almost extinct. They don't recycle and they don't eat healthy - most of them are too poor to afford fresh fruits and vegetables anyways.

Masaaki Hatsumi, the soke of the Bujinkan (an umbrella school of the nine major schools of Ninjutsu) addresses this problem as well, proclaiming it's no use eating organic ingredients and avoiding toxins, as it only weakens the ninja's body further, exposing risk to shock from not being able to get access to such specialized foods any longer. Hatsumi is almost in his 80's and still has the moves of a cat. The word ninja literally means "enduring man" shinobi means "heart under blade". Kunoichi means "extra hole"

Hahaha gotta keep your sense of humor.

The roma family I knew when I lived in Seattle sometimes spoke of the impending disaster with such conviction they often said "I would not bring children into this world with what is going to be happening in the near future." The Pacific Northwest tribes recite the same sort of ominous tales, all with a not so serious smile. Their prayers and dances are deadly serious though, and secret to outsiders. They are meant to stave off the wrath of the ocean. They say the gods themselves emerged from the ocean in the ancient days and gave them the ritual masks to keep until the end of the world.

I don't see anything happening with the space program. People are so focused on the world beneath their feet, and travelling the globe to be concerned about the sky anymore. It was once the main focus of the ancient world. Now you go outside and can't see more than 1-2 stars in a city, due to the smog and light pollution. Do people even remember the stars? We have a budget for war but not a budget to visit the planet of war yet. Not on a level that means anything yet.

When I visited the Hopi reservation a number of years ago, after a few turns of fate I found myself speaking to a seemingly sad young man who lived in a tiny tar roofed shack at the edge of the first mesa, a house as small as a closet, with a stove, a bed and no insulation - he told me about the harsh winters. I saw heaven around me, in the pure sky and the fantastic orange landscape. They agreed but then they also had to see it everyday. Then he pointed up to the mesa, covered in adobe, saying with some dissapointment in his voice "They don't have room for us up there anymore." Schisms amongst even the legendary Hopi? I had come looking for a spider woman kachina, he sold me a butterfly kachina he carved instead. I visited the people on the mesa, they were rude to me, except for the old blind grandma and the young girl. I gave the old lady a silver tiger necklace in exchange for some small pottery her grandaughter had made. The most beautiful thing about the land is the ravens and the view from the mesa. but the hearts of the people there have grown cold and secluded from beauty, even at the heart of the land of the blue star kachina.

So the way I interpret what you are saying here m1thr0s is that we need to survive, and use the radioactivity of the body of light herself to upgrade our functions past the point of the extinction finish line that's coming up. I suppose if natures giving us an exit strategy she's also unleashed something from her closet. I've always been terrified of the dead coming back to life. :dull: I suppose SARS, the tsunamis, earthquakes, mad cow and HIV are just friendly warning shots? :laugh:

I'm fucking motivated! It's hard not to be when you've taken a peek into the future....oooh who knows what Ma has up her sleeves. Good thing she likes us...alot. I spoke to Durga about this, she only had one thing to say: "GO BOYSSS!" and then, nothing.

Ci Celli Ddu
07-19-2007, 11:44 PM
I don't see anything happening with the space program.

I agree with m1thr0s's last post. However, leaving the nest is not merely a question of space technology. The plain fact about space travel, particularly interstellar travel, is that it necessitates the manipulation of Time. In other words, to be a Space traveller you have to be a Time Traveller. The necessary leap that transhumanism will have to make could very well be in this direction, into an area that falls very much within the realms of magick.

m1thr0s
07-19-2007, 11:49 PM
Ok. So, m1thr0s, what you're saying is disaster is inevitable, yes? Something in the future is going to happen that's going to overwhelm humanity as a whole - the sixth extinction finally returning on the instruments of its onslaught - us. Global disaster is at this point a mathematical given, yes. Nothing will prevent this. The extent to which it can be mediated is directly proportional to the degree to which we can accelerate our own inherent abilities but the race is on and by the time most people have decided it's time to own up to the facts, it will be too late.

You have to understand something very important here. Many religions have programmed people to accept these disasters as an integrated part of their imagined salvation. Xianity is undoubtedly the most blatant among these but they are not the only ones who have sold out the human race to a godamm fantasy. Whether Xians recognize it or not they have been programmed to look forward to these things as scripted precursors to the 2nd coming of Christ. No matter how you slice the deck...that's how the book is written and they know it. If you think this way yourself, there is nothing that can be done for you since only you can take the necessary initiative to redeem the world directly. Christ will come from within...not from without. That whole damn thing is a deliberate fabrication.

I am not an alarmist by nature. I believe there is nothing going on in this world that couldn't have been predicted by anyone skilled enough in socio-economic data analysis to call the shots by the numbers. I wasn't thrilled about bringing a kid into this world either but now that this has happened I am just that more committed to facilitating some kind of an alternative reality. I feel like as long as you are assuming responsibility for the thing...there is no sense hiding in a godamm closet over it. Kids are cool...they improve life enormously. They deserve the best godamm shot we can give them.

I do think we need to be thinking in *nuclear* terms as much as possible...we need to be utilizing everything we have at our disposals. Solutions are possible but they probably won't be easy and we are under the gun here time-wise... The world, in general, doesn't give a shit and is not there to assist these solutions coming forward, so we should not expect that. We do have each other and we damn well better learn to make some good use of that in my opinion.

I agree with m1thr0s's last post. However, leaving the nest is not merely a question of space technology. The plain fact about space travel, particularly interstellar travel, is that it necessitates the manipulation of Time. In other words, to be a Space traveller you have to be a Time Traveller. The necessary leap that transhumanism will have to make could very well be in this direction, into an area that falls very much within the realms of magick.I was hesitant to use that (loaded) term on several counts. For one thing...I don't think in terms of leaving the nest for good...rather finding a better way to coexist with it. I agree that the monkey-in-a-can approach to space migration is laughable. I am quite convinced that the Body of Light is our best alternative technology. We may ultimately develop some kinds of actual vehicles but they are more likely to be Time-Ships than Space-Ships per se.

edit: I should probably admit that there was only ever one space program I personally endorsed as viable and it has clearly been abandoned for fear of not being able to maintain control over it. I have discussed it before. High-Orbital Space Stations would amount to the rational intermediary step to interplanetary and galactic - intergalactic space migration. This way we would buy ourselves some time to be able to access the world at will but kick back at one remove and work on ourselves from a literally godlike perspective. This would almost certainly work but the support will not be there for it from business or government. They know they would lose control and it wouldn't take long. Once people were acclimated to that kind of environment they would be evolving at many times the speeds of earth-bound humans.

m1thr0s

Naomi
07-20-2007, 01:54 AM
So when are you holding a workshop? Next fall? That would probably give me enough time to formulate some pretty high speed evocation curriculum and recruit registrants and instructors off of OF and elsewhere.

2008?

m1thr0s
07-20-2007, 02:02 AM
yeah...maybe sooner. I've decided there has to be some kind of book...much as I loathe the idea. That may seem strange but books inherently freeze-frame information that was never intended to be frozen...something like this is moving very fast all the time...every day...every second of every day...

And yet...there needs to be some kind of reference manual...so I'm on the son-of-a-bitch. Not happy about it but will do what needs to be done here. Just because I don't like the project doesn't mean it won't rock...

m1thr0s

Naomi
07-20-2007, 02:28 AM
Well, unless you want everyone to carry a laptop with a WIFI connection. I have to get one of those anyways.

Pretty soon you'll be knee deep in followers and you won't even have time to sit still. It's probably going to be really fracked.

I'm happy about it. One brick at a time or w/e.

Darkwater
11-26-2007, 07:14 PM
Great post once you get by the tedious pc intro,m1thr0s.that was heavy but very rewarding.

I will read the links tomorrow & I am very much looking forward to brushing up upon my merkabah which I have been meaning to do for ages now.

Was it you who once explained to me the fascinating Copenhagen Theory,the properties that determine the actions of Light Beings(such as we are) & our actions within the sphere we choose to inhabit for the purpose of interaction with other light beings as we freely do?

Namaste,I feel privelaged.

Andy

m1thr0s
11-26-2007, 11:00 PM
Was it you who once explained to me the fascinating Copenhagen Theory,the properties that determine the actions of Light Beings(such as we are) & our actions within the sphere we choose to inhabit for the purpose of interaction with other light beings as we freely do?That sounds like a takeoff on Heisenberg's stuff. If you come up with a link it would be great to see that...

I don't think that specific conversation was with me though...

m1thr0s

Darkwater
11-27-2007, 12:35 PM
TY for asking me m1thr0s.

Heisenberg's Copenhagen Theory(only coz he lived there)."The Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Theory" to give it its full title.

Later scientists have ripped the soul out of the great man Heideggers work.

Cutting to the chase,the main points were:-

"This probability function represents a mixture of two things, partly a fast and partly our knowledge of a fact. It represents a fact in so far as it assigns at the initial time the probability unity (i.e., complete certainty) to the initial situation: the electron moving with the observed velocity at the observed position; 'observed' means observed within the accuracy of the experiment. It represents our knowledge in so far as another observer could perhaps know the position of the electron more accurately. The error in the experiment does - at least to some extent - not represent a property of the electron but a deficiency in our knowledge of the electron. Also this deficiency of knowledge is expressed in the probability function."

The main bit being "deficiency of knowledge is expressed in the probability function."

Sick & pissed off at trying to explain stuff to his best buddy & attractive wife,they had a drink in the guy's mansion,in a big sitting room.

Suddenly he had an idea,turned out all the gas lights,got the furniture in the middle of this huge room by the dim light of a big log fire.The three of them got naked & ran around the room,bumping into each other,laughing,falling around-this was as close as you get to "electron" state & how they interract,depending upon the meander & generator(faster/slower/what would change your direction).

As they lay down in front of the fire,he tranferred the thought to the scale of Copenhahagen,an area of 10 square miles(his home town),populated by 500,000 light beings(his home boys/girls).He described how he would walk down the street absorbing & giving energy to all the light beings he met on his path,horse drawn carriages,horses & everything living you would expect to meet,& how you would react to this.Your defences,situations you would avoid so as not to lose your charge.

Naturally I apply this to Glasgow,I think of the light beings I enjoy the company off,the dark beings that generate other feelings,the routes to go to attract light & dispel darkness,self preserve,the exchange of energies.This is how he thinks of electrons.

In the online sense,we have some particularly enlightened beings floating around the most interesting of subjects,bouncing ideas off of each other,generating emotions,thoughts,laughter,disgust,the full range.Maybe avoid bores or a/holes which might damage us or you spend all of your energies correcting,or post to lighten your mood or darken it.

This is a great venue for light beings to interract,when two collide all sorts of things could happen.This being the probability function in quantum theory.

"The observation, on the other hand, enforces the description in space and time but breaks the determined continuity of the probability function by changing our knowledge of the system.
Generally the dualism between two different descriptions of the same reality is no longer a difficulty since we know from the mathematical formulation of the theory that contradictions cannot arise. The dualism between the two complementary pictures - waves and particles - is also clearly brought out in the flexibility of the mathematical scheme. The formalism is normally written to resemble Newtonian mechanics, with equations of motion for the coordinates and the momenta of the particles.

What wavelength are you on,how can this be stimulated,how well are your particles functioning,are all chakra being used to their full effect,how well grounded are you,are you centred,how can you re-allign yourself to be functioning perfectly at the top of your game.What lifts you as you travel around the nucleus of Abrahadabra forums?

What causes integration,what causes disentigration?

Anybody find this a useful explanation of Quantum Theory?

Here is the blurb http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/heisenb3.htm

Namaste

Andy