Trance-Inducing Technologies...

[m1thr0s]

This forum hasn't received a lot of attention yet but I want to begin focusing on it a little more, personally. I'd like to start a compendium of known trance-inducing technologies that do not rely upon drugs or extreme physical duress to work. I know there's quite a lot of work that has been done in this area but it seems to be scattered all over the place and is often difficult to know how effective any of it is. I think if we can begin gathering examples of Sound & Light Manipulation technologies that have a direct impact on consciousness...all in one place...we can begin to get a better overview of this fascinating area of consciousness technology in general...

So that's it for now...this will require a certain amount of research to dig these things out. Let's see if we can't put together a fairly comprehensive list right here where we can look at it all and consider the pro's and con's...

m1thr0s

[Kain]

Very interesting subject, thanks for bringing it up m1thr0s.

Well, I guess gazing/scrying would be an approach I'd put right on top of my list. This technique, as you well know yourself m1thr0s, allows one to at first visually (and in a tactile fashion perhaps, at least in my case), and then with all other senses, perceive and interract with higher plane constructs and energy fields through the concentration upon an appropriate visual focus. So, in a way, it offers a trance state induced through visual concentration.

Very potent if properly conducted, although slightly more difficult to use correctly (at least for beginners) is also the concentration on internally produced (subtle) sound. Power words and mantras are incredibly potent tools and sound can very powerfully both concentrate and also formulate and manifest the initial tendencies shown in "light" alone. So, this method is based on the tracing and reproduction of internal sound.

Is pranayama a valid method for this list? I don't know if it should be considered as a method requiring physical duress or not, as it at first feels quite weird for some, although it becomes extremely natural and sought-for over time.


Kain

EDIT: A special kind of technique that becomes more perceivable over time is one of volitionally turning one's senses inwards. I'm not sure if it should be described as a technique or as an instant and willful assuming of a desired altered state of consciousness, however it is quite an important factor, at least for me. In a way, it could be related with "Dharana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharana)", the sixth limb of Ashtanga Yoga.

[m1thr0s]

these are certainly valid and time-tested technologies Kain, but I think they are essentially "internal" and what I am especially interested in right at the moment are ways of manipulating sound & light vibration "externally" that might prove especially useful in facilitating and accelerating this kind of internal work.

I do have a certain ulterior motives for pursuing this. I realize that I really need to begin some kind of formal instruction regarding hexagrammal field work and Body of Light training in general and I am sort of trying to sort out what kinds of environmental controls might be especially useful in facilitating that kind of work so that people are able to experience "results" almost immediately. I do have somebody working with me on this already and it's going to happen in any case, but I also think it would be useful to begin looking at this kind of thing right here on these forums.

There are certain things we already know but may not be using to best effect. We know for instance that certain light-strobe frequencies will elicit trance states in many people. We know that sensory deprivation chambers have had dramatic results for many people. We know that reverberation and alpha-wave technologies have demonstrated dymamic results. Lately I have seen a few articles relating to magnetism that also seem promising. Various experiments have been conducted around the Music of the Spheres that would almost certainly have productive applications.

Of all the things that have been tested or developed I don't really know which might be the best to combine with conventional (or unconventional) meditation practises, but it is my suspicion that the pieces to this puzzle already exist and have simply not been put together in the manner I have in mind. Since I am already on this research project, I see no reason not to open it up to general discussion since others may already be aware of things that I am not (on the one hand) and we may even be able to arrive at some sort of general consensus just through digging out all available data and looking at it openly...

So that's sort of more in the area I am fishing for right here in this topic...

m1thr0s

[Kain]

I see, that clarifies things a lot for me concerning the specialties of the discussion, thank you m1thr0s.

Kain

[MythMath]

I really feel that this is the cornerstone...

So much can be built on this type of foundation...

Breathing strategies and trance states are fundamental...
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Hybrids, blends and overlaps of various techniques and disciplines...

Lights, tones, beats, smells, chants, chance, charts, yoyos, whatever... :yes:

I'd like to hear more from Dragon on the 'crowd control' aspects...
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Could a largish group of people collectively skry the same large image...?

With incense, lightshows, surroundsound and animated
Flower/Twin powerglyphs, Mass Trance It... :laugh:
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Seriously though, I'm very interested in using
modern audio and lighting equipment in any sort
of multimedia system integral to trance induction....


MM
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That's when the jugglers ride in on unicycles...!

[m1thr0s]

Dragon is actually the one who will be most closely working with me on this...he's just an invaluable person to have in my corner. I don't think he'll mind me opening the floodgates this way since no matter what happens here I always feel a certain obligation to anyone working along these lines and there will never be that many of us on it at any one time anyway. I firmly believe in the adage "as brothers fight ye" and I don't really give a shit about the possibility of being ripped off since I already know that it is very nearly impossible for anyone to duplicate my life's work anyway...let alone take it to the general public with any real measure of success.

This is going to happen come hell or high water people. The Abrahadabra Institute is on the move...little steps to begin with but I believe nothing is going to stop it now...

Anyway...that is all a little beside the actual point but a little background noise may be useful nevertheless...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

I was planning on starting a thread today imploring Dragon to
offer up more details on his past experiences in these matters...

So, we're on the same wave... :yes:

I'm very curious what you two have formulated so far...

MM

[m1thr0s]

well...he's a wave-technician to the bone, that's for sure. But there are a lot of possible ways to proceed. Hopefully, here in this topic we can start to chronolog some of the more promising possibilities as we dig them out.

the whole trick in my view is pinpointing those things which may be the most natural already...which will blend well with disciplined will itself and not come off as some sort of push-button enlightenment nonsense...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

I agree, the technology should ideally
nudge existing natural tendencies...

The seam at the interface should be
seamless and transparent; organic...

[m1thr0s]

Here's a whole company committed to this sort of thing (from all outward appearances) with a lot of links...just as a starting point: Cerebrex (http://www.cerebrex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=C)

I haven't had a chance to run through it all yet...

Also "biofeedback technologies" should prove a good search key I think...

"Kinesionics" or "Kinesiology" may also yield some good info...

I am particularly interested in "biophotons" by the way in case anybody runs into anything detailing how to set that up...it may be cost-prohibitive but it's fascinating stuff...

"alpha-wave" technology and variations should also prove profitable...

a "morphogenetic resonance" machine (or generator) would be sweet, but I don't think we are there yet...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

I'll run through these search posibilities this week...
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In general though, with this type of stuff plugged online,
how do you know when it has any functional benefit
or if it's just electrosnake oil...?

F'rinstance:

I checked a bit at cerebrex,
and found this radionics device (typos, etc. included):

Hailed as quackery the mainstream medical establishment, Radionics as a healing modality, has a long history of success through dedicated practitioners, and was first pioneered in the early 1900's by the venerable Dr. Albert Abrams., whose work was further evolved in the 1930’s up to the 1960’s by Ruth Drone, a Los Angels Chiropractor, who based her system protocols on Qabalistic theories.

In the spirit of such tradition, Cerebrex offers to the discerning public, an experimental Radioinc machine of great beauty and power.
The Cerebrex Mind Activator is a 7 dial Radionic/Psionic device based on “black-Box-Technology”.

Please note. The Cerebrex Mind Activator is a non-returnable product.

The Cerebrex Mind Activator.....$350.00

http://www.cerebrex.com/2004-images/Cerebrex%20Mind%20Activator.jpg
http://www.cerebrex.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=C&Product_Code=C-MindActiv&Category_Code=RI
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Snazzy yes, but has anyone here had succesful experience with radionics...?

[m1thr0s]

In general though, with this type of stuff plugged online,
how do you know when it has any functional benefit
or if it's just electrosnake oil...?For the most part I suspect that site will be useless to us, but it may lead into other research areas. I think that we are primarily going to be interested in things that have some documentation behind them and can be accounted for logically, at least at the level of theory. Gizmo's that are touted as "healing" devises will tend to be the most suspect since anything people invest a personal belief in will run a certain success rate in terms of healing phenomenum...it simply doesn't mean that much in itself.

Also..the price alone on that gizmo is highly suspect. You can pay that kind of money for a fancy kid's toybox these days. A standard queen-sized platform bed will run you $800-$1200.00 (frame only). It's basically priced to snag the curious and this is very suspicious. I would imagine that when we do find something that looks promising it's actual pricetag will be cost-prohibitive and we will have to then look to ways of putting one together ourselves.

For those into mycology for instance, a premade innoculation "flow-hood" is going to run you around $1700.00 these days, yet you can build one exactly the same for less than $200.00. I anticipate we will run into the same deal here...

It's a trippy looking box though...does it come with 3-D glasses???

"Doubt all. Doubt even that thou doubtest." [the wickedest man in the world...]

m1thr0s

[m1thr0s]

good lord...I found this scanning "biophoton technology", though it is apparently something quite different...this is some mind-blowing stuff...

PhiRICAIS (http://www.soulinvitation.com/phiricais/index.html)

If I am getting this right (it's very thick), you could construct a room that would create an optimal biophoton harmonics in which mantra/yantra work would be naturally "maximized" just by being in the room itself. Therefor it counteracts all kinds of pollutions, creating a kind of energy pollution "free-zone"...

This is more in the neighborhood of the kind of thing I am looking for...still...I have no idea if it really works but it looks very impressive...

note: as interesting as all this is, we will have to dig a little deeper to get to a more responsible presentation of the more critical bits. Dan Winter is apparently behind this immediate presentation whose work is not original and whose facts cannot be trusted...see: http://www.danwinter.com/ , or The Meru Foundation (http://www.meru.org/) main website... just a word to the wise...the underscoring ideas still have merit however.

m1thr0s

[Pagan39]

And of course..you cannot forget movement,particularly dance as an ancient and time-honoured way of achieving trance states.From the whirling of the Sufi dervishes to the flowing movements of tai chi...... the amount of times I was at a dance party or a rave and idly wondered what could happen if the energy generated by all those dancers was harnessed and directed.
In fact only the other day I was inspired by a comment of Mythmaths to imagine people with a directed intent who were trained in all the technologies doing a form of moving meditation using sound on an astronomically propitious date at a energetically powerful place......well that would be an experiment worth trying.

[m1thr0s]

The Fields are all very athletic...very movement-oriented meditations. The TwinStar is really only a form of the Trigrammal Fields (also Hexagrammal Fields) which comprise the greater system. But these are all very movement-oriented katas (ie, "forms"). Knowing how to "dance" the fields is much more important than simply knowing how to "trace" them for instance...

m1thr0s

[Dragon]

Here are some links to start tracking. Check it out.

http://www.bio-medical.com/product.cfm

http://www.asc-home-theater.com/htvol2.htm

http://www.ieee.org/organizations/pubs/newsletters/emcs/fall99/reverb.htm

http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html

http://www.techlib.com/reference/musical_note_frequencies.htm

~D~

[Amur]

There is one technique to get fairly quickly into trance where one skips through the various senses one at a time concentrating on one new imput at a time and cycling through it (with eyes closed). Not to mention all the hypnotic techniques available.

Getting severely traumatized has the benefit in making one highly suggestable to dissociation, which in turn can lead to dropping in and out of trance state, which in turn makes one a perfect medium for whatever. Probably the reason why shamans are shamans heh. Got to the state where the body of light can be changed with simple concentration at whatever, although it's still quite subtle levels and not so much in physical yet. But it is a bit hard keeping touch with reality when one can change the corresponding reality to whatever, not to mention ones own feelings.

[Radiant Star]

What about these?

Vox Mundi Project (http://www.voxmundiproject.com/recommended_readings_7.htm)

rmit.edu.au Brown pdf (http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/dac/papers/Brown.pdf)

Mimetics (http://www.mimetics.com/)

[Dragon]

More.

http://eamusic.dartmouth.edu/~kov/lerdahl/pythagorean.html

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/music/musical-note-frequencies.htm

http://www.lunarplanner.com/Harmonics/planetary-harmonics.html

LMFAO!!!! But there is something here...http://www.braintuner.com/photon.htm

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2004/SamanthaCharles.shtml

http://www.soundstage.com/synergize/synergize081998.htm

http://peyote.com/jonstef/brain.htm

http://www.hackcanada.com/homegrown/wetware/brainwave/index.html

http://www.west.net/~simon/DNA---RESONANCE(123).html

http://www.spinspace.com/biophysics/vibtheory.htm

~D~

[m1thr0s]

great links folks...keep 'em comin'...:D

here's a link to various categories we want to examine here (though not at all exhaustive)...Mind-Body Technologies (http://www.deeptrancenow.com/technologies.htm)

m1thr0s

[Logos]

Might we consider symbols trance-inducing technologies?

-Logos

[m1thr0s]

Might we consider symbols trance-inducing technologies?well...you're talking to an extreme symbologist in my case, but aside from that, thousands of years of mandalla, iconographic and yantric traditions from all over the world should be ample to implicate the power of symbols in the human psyche I think.

Right here I am trying to sort out "environmental" supports that might serve to maximize any kind of mantra-yantra work since even if it exists externally, I count most of that work as an internal processing...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

I've always believed in Leary's other technologies---the idea that music and light in the proper combination could induce a psychadelic like state. While I've never 'tripped' from such technologies, without a doubt I've found such environments very condusive to getting into a trance state.

If one has ever attended a real "trance party" (trance music plus light show plus lots of dancing), even without drugs the effects of the combination are very strong.

(I've seen these guys at work too; very interesting http://www.liquidlights.com/

I think we're overlooking a technology on all of our computers that can bring the above right into our home: the visualization feature of winamp or windows media player. Pick (or create) your favorite patttern maker, maximize the window, crank the music, turn off the lights and just stare at your screen....



for fun:--make sure to click on the little boxes
http://www.seethru.co.uk/games/pst/tripotron.htm



Leary supposedly 'taught' these guys
http://www.noctis.com/psyclotron/

[m1thr0s]

It's doubtful that any existing technology that we have at present can come anywhere near the strength found in a true psychedelic state. Unfortunately it really isn't possible to teach under those conditions and part of what interests me here is whatever can be found that would be useable within a group instruction format...probably small groups (at least initially) but possibly extending to larger groups later on. I wish Dan Winter wasn't such an apparent nutcase, since some of the ideas he has put forward are very intriguing and would seem to be possible on their face. Crackpot or no, he may actually have the right idea.

The aggressive use of the Golden Ratio in architectural applications could ultimately make it possible to construct even very large meditation "chambers" capable of housing dozens, maybe hundreds of people at a clip. You get that many people focused on the same thing in an environment designed to maximize their energy output and who knows what might be possible. The interesting thing to me is...that's almost exactly the kind of thing we might have expected from Pythagoras himself...it's very appropriate to tetractys-style working in general...

Right now I am guessing that some combination of reverberation technology and golden ratio "capacitor" technology might be well suited to large groups if put together in just the right ways. At the heart of it you still require a focusing technique that can coordinate internal space with an unusually high degree of efficiency of course...that part I believe I already have covered.

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Quote:

that part I believe I already have covered.


Spill some details...
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A few days ago you mentioned you had
been doing more on-screen skrying lately...

I'd also like to explore here how groups that
are scattered geographically, but tethered
online, could work in focused synchrony...

If we all worked with the same pulsing
animated glyph, could we synch-up...?

MM

[m1thr0s]

I didn't anticipate that would be taken as an enigmatic statement! I simply mean that Mutational Alchemy is highly concentrated stuff...I haven't entered into the particulars of trigrammal fields yet (coming soon) but it is all highly focused and highly energized mantra-yantra activity...

I only do on-screen scrying because so many of my "mirrors" have been prepped for on-screen presentation. As a matter of form I always check my creations out physically...they are designed for functionality most of all. I don't really feel like on-screen work is superior in any way but it has its qualities. For the mostpart, electromagnetic energy still basically annoys me on a neurological level...I much prefer to work in a standard magickal mirror format under natural lighting conditions and no radios, tv's or other electronic apparatus cluttering up the atmosphere...

m1thr0s

[Catalytic Subterfuge]

Ok, so I know this is redundant in this thread, but, hasn't it always been about the interface?

[m1thr0s]

maybe you could explain your question better Catalytic Subterfuge...I am not sure what you are asking or what point you are trying to raise...

m1thr0s

[Dragon]

I'm off to the big bad city to check out some possible labs for initial experiments, as well as putting out some feelers for some of the gear we will need. Anything anyone can dig up let me know...I'm a Craig's list whore, so I recommend it to people as a start.

If you are looking for a shopping list, start with the links I posted for some ideas, the kitchen sink is welcome. Brain wave monitors (EEG's), bio-feedback machines, aura cameras, bose speakers ( or their equivalent just to start, but I really want dual 18" sub cabinets for this to work properly), outboard processing gear (especially pitch changers, harmonizors, delays, and the like), RTA's (Real Time Analyzers) reverb tuners/plans for tuners//portable reverb chamber designs, almost any kind of lighting gear, and anything else you might think we can use - let me know then post it here. My hope that in looking for the gear some ideas about environment will arise. We should discuss portable vs. fixed technology and compare our needs for the two.

That's what it is friends.

I feel that in the being able to detect the effects of the field work is paramount, so that we can then establish our baseline. Also to isolate and reproduce sound and EM frequencies that we assign to the spheres or hexagrams then in turn assign those to brainwave parameters and living cell dimensions to find out where our standing wave/ resonant frequencies are so we can determine their good and bad effects as well. Then we can begin to establish a set of triggers based in sound, light, brainwave, or EM emissions to cue the subject to make adjustments in tone, focus, breathing. etc.

Feel free to shoot me, give me more ammo, or arrest me if you have better or alternate ideas...this is about what works people, and egos are served with cheerios. I'm starting from scratch across the board, so look over charts and tables. What is the best frequency assignments for the TreeStar? And for that matter what of the EM Spectrum....
Yes, binaural freqs will be used to key triggers.. So explore there as well.

I've gotta go now.

Ciao.

~D~

[m1thr0s]

good hunting Dragon...

note: I am going to repost Amur's Music of the Spheres (http://www.keplerstern.com/Introduction/introduction.html) link here since I keep looking for it and it should be included here.

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

The reason I was going to ask Dragon to discuss his group/sound/light
experiments, is because I've been working with a client for a few years
now that started with tuning forks and ended up at kymotropes*...

Because of my involvement in my clients' projects, I began to
investigate various light/sound frequency set ups including
binaural beats, sinewave reproductions of sacred geometry forms,
stereograms and other visual 'illusions', etc., etc...

I feel that as we develop future set ups and systems, we can
compare our experiences in applying these technologies,
and therefore advance our research exponentially...

I'm offering up my studio here and all of the various gear and
gizmos as a remote lab to conduct research and development...

Let's make it hum and bleep and pulsate and gurgle...


MM
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*BTW, m1thr0s, are you and Dragon in the same geographic area?
If so, could you show him the Making Waves video? I still think
that anything that isomorphically maps significant sonic frequencies
with associated linear light patterns has some potential in this field.

[m1thr0s]

*BTW, m1thr0s, are you and Dragon in the same geographic area?
If so, could you show him the Making Waves video? I still think
that anything that isomorphically maps significant sonic frequencies
with associated linear light patterns has some potential in this field.yes & yes...
but where are you MM? I seem to have lost the little card...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Do you mean what city...?

Ft.Wayne, Indiana...

Where the pear and the cantalope lay...

[m1thr0s]

damn...that's a hell of a bus-ride from Oly, Wa...

we're gonna need a freaking Lear Jet before we're through...

m1thr0s

[Logos]

Trance-Inducing Technologies:

Chess
Monopoly
Risk
Poker
Solitaire
Super Mario Bros.
Tetris
Pong
Tarot
I Ching
Roasted Sunflower Seeds
Gum
Catholicism
Catholic Mass
LBRP
Soap Operas
Masturbation
Philosophy
Commercials
Sitcoms
Homework
Barbeque
Pornography
Instant Messenger
Text Messages
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-Logos

[Ci Celli Ddu]

Trance-Inducing Technologies:

Chess
Monopoly
Risk
Poker
Solitaire
Super Mario Bros.
Tetris
Pong
Tarot
I Ching
Roasted Sunflower Seeds
Gum
Catholicism
Catholic Mass
LBRP
Soap Operas
Masturbation
Philosophy
Commercials
Sitcoms
Homework
Barbeque
Pornography
Instant Messenger
Text Messages
Abrahadabra.com
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-Logos

On that line of thought I'd like to add the film Fantastic Four, an enthralling cinematic experience. Enthralling? Sorry, I meant tedious.

[m1thr0s]

lol...we seem to be on very different wavelengths here Logos... I am shooting for a little higher category of "trance" than you seem to want to acknowledge...

now the EM stuff you were talking about earlier would be more in line with what I am actually after here...

it surprizes me as a drummer you would not list "drumming" for instance...in any case certain rhythms might be especially conducive to energy field-working. Somehow I doubt television etc is quite what I am after...

Do you know that if you play a didgeridoo in front of a television set you will cause wavy patterns to overlay the tv screen? something about the didge seems to disrupt electro-magnetic waves. It doesn't matter how still you are...you will still get these wave interference patterns...

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

My personal favourite way to get into trances is sleep deprivation (say about 24 hrs without sleep). Guitar comes as an unreliable second, although that qualifies pretty much as drumming as Im a rhythmic strummer, not an Eric Clapton.

[Logos]

Do you know that if you play a didgeridoo in front of a television set you will cause wavy patterns to overlay the tv screen? something about the didge seems to disrupt electro-magnetic waves. It doesn't matter how still you are...you will still get these wave interference patterns...

m1thr0s
yeah, I'm actually supposed to be getting a didgeridoo of some kind along with a lesson or two from a friend of mine. He said, if you do the circular breathing right, you can actually get the note to resonate in the same frequency as your body to the point it feels as if your body has become the didgeridoo. Pretty cool, if you ask me.

-Logos

[m1thr0s]

yeah...amazing instruments. try the tv experiment if you get a chance. I'd like to confirm this with as many people as possible. The weird thing is you can put a plant or something right next to the tv and you won't get the same reaction...it's something about the electromagntic waves coming off the television itself...

and that's what the australian aborigines always said...it sets up a wave pattern that reaches into the *dreamtime*...

m1thr0s

[Dragon]

Again, it's all about the wavelength. The length of the wave is the length of the dij it "stands" in...meaning it's the tone that goes through one complete sine wave end to end, whatever the length. The "back pressure" you feel when playing a well made dij is from the lower sweep of the sine acting on the upper, and then in turn on the smaller octave/harmonic waves flowing out of yo flappin' lips
Thhhhppptthhhhh!!!! You can produce upper and lower octaves of that wave through voice and embouchure, and change pitch by altering the frequency of your rasberry....TTHHHPPPPTTTHHHH!!!!!! Hail keepers of the Holy Cosmic Rasberry!

Bill the cat is our god.....ack, ack.

As far as the tv thing is, This needs a few observers. One that is not plaing the dij, and is not between the player in the tv.....odd the shit you do while you think no one else is looking; I've played with the effects of dij's on stuff...just point and flarp ya know? I noticed the tv thing and checked in on it - and found out that it was my eyeballs jiggling in my head from the vibrating dij against my face. Beware -

You are pointing real waves at your head, whether in dij form or in electronic form, so it makes your cage rumble like jello in an earthquake. Word to the wise, non?

I actually recorded some dij stuff...nothing major, just some experiments in a studio I had helped build up in Seattle; played with all the effects and stuff...it was cool...but I digress.

Ever feel you are in a Monty Python movie?

GET ON WITH IT!



It is one of the best non electric tools for observing the behavior of waves. And next time I'm in the same room with somebody that plays (beside me), I would like to see it make waves on the tv outside of my buzzing skull to confirm that. I think one would see it on a plasma or LCD, But cathode ray or LCD I'm not sure yet. We'll see.

I just wanted to get that out of my system before I went into why I typed this post...

Remember Alice? This is a story about Alice....

So that we are clear on this from here on out. We have the sigils, meditations, signs and designs we require. This will be performed on two control groups - one influenced by incense, candles, ummmm...imbibables... and one group that is NOT. Meaning as pure and clean a baseline as we can get - John Q. Anybody. We have that a bit kinda sorted out by this point.. When we say technology we mean TECHNOLOGY! Think"lasers"! (somebody through me a bone!) I need analyzers and sensors from HELL! Microphones, scopes, spectrum analyzers, critical bio scanning gear, speakers capable of producing low waves...I mean friggin 24 inch movie theater cones; minimum 18 inchers! I need materials suggestions for building an acoustic chamber that is lightweight and portable, or alternately, reverberation "tuners" I can use to reflect sound in any given space. I need projectors , lights....umm...VISQUEEN!

Those kinds of suggestions would be most appreciated; concentration on science please, aesthetics are later...also let's say we can project lit or light objects directionally? Those would be responsive to the field generations as well..it's all connected - It all ties in..O my God!!!!!

IT ALL MAKES SENSE!


...didn't get much sleep last night...can you tell?

Busy running down stuff yesterday, and that will continue through the weekend.
I will away from the 10th to the 20th of Jan...so not a lot of activity then, but after...MUCH to do.

Bang your heads; get leads, get bent, get the Led out. get anything useful...But let's not wander off what we are doing.

m1 - I'll see you in time.


Peace.

~D~

p.s. I went through Indiana.......What a WEIRD state....I mean really....wow dude.

hehehe - laters

[Talkingfox]

yeah...amazing instruments. try the tv experiment if you get a chance. I'd like to confirm this with as many people as possible. The weird thing is you can put a plant or something right next to the tv and you won't get the same reaction...it's something about the electromagntic waves coming off the television itself...

and that's what the australian aborigines always said...it sets up a wave pattern that reaches into the *dreamtime*...

m1thr0s


That's an affirmative here m1thr0s. I noticed that effect after I'd been playing a year or so. Of course I had to try with the plant immediately after reading this....and yuppers the reaction changed.

[Dragon]

I wonder if it's a cross-focus....hmm.


Will have to wait to see...grrrr.

[m1thr0s]

well...I considered the head-vibration thing of course and it may well be that but it still doesn't explain why it only affects the tube and nothing else. Lamps. Lavalights. Walls. Pictures on Walls. All ok. TV = wacked out. Weird. I figure it must be an interference pattern but I don't know about other observers...that's a good question. Haven't tested that. Didge played on a stereo doesn't seem to have the same effect...just live.

Sounds like progress is a happenin'...coolness...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

You figments are freaking me out...

Today my 6 yo son and I went to Lowe's home
supply to get raw materials to make a didgeridoo...

[I've had success in the past making them out of PVC....]

He has been on an Australia kick for a while
mainly dealing with their unique zoology...

One of his PC games is about Aussie wildlife
and it features a dig in the 'soundtrack'...

I'll report back on the TV thang after we finish...

MM

PS - get some sleep Dragon...

[Talkingfox]

Please tell me you didn't say PVC MM...the stuff off gasses in a phenomonally toxic fashion.

As a longterm didge player I've found that the foamcore black abs pipe works really well for didges. It bends nice and the foam warms the tone up a whole lot.
The stuff rated for hot water is a safer option than pvc.

TF (who amuses the clerks at Lowes by playing the entire plumbing section)

[m1thr0s]

didges also come tuned to different keys. I think all of mine are just off a hair so that may be a factor as well...One is a G-flat I think and another one a C-sharp. I have a bamboo one that I believe may be a true A but I haven't really tested it...

I also don't know if the pvc ones have the same effect. They play nicely but the whole vibrational thing is really very different.

Does anybody here know that the best didges in the world are carved out by termites? I know Talkingfox knows this but most people probably don't. Millions of tiny little grooves left by termites hollowing out fallen branches...all smoothed out etc...makes for a didge that has a vastly superior tonal quality and range of variation sounds...

nature knows best...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

I was curious if anyone would warn against PVC...

I'll revise our materials and proceed accordingly...

Thanks,

MM
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{from wiki:}
Physics and operation
A termite-bored didgeridoo has an irregular shape that, overall, usually
increases in diameter towards the lower end. This shape means that its
resonances occur at frequencies that are not harmonically spaced in frequency.

This contrasts with the harmonic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic) spacing of the resonances in a cylindrical
plastic pipe, whose resonant frequencies fall in the ratio 1:3:5 etc.

The second resonance of a didgeridoo (the note sounded by overblowing) is
usually around an 11th higher than the fundamental frequency
(a frequency ratio somewhat less than 3:1).

The vibration produced by the player's lips has harmonics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonics) - i.e. it has frequency
components falling exactly in the ratio 1:2:3 etc.

However, the non-harmonic spacing of the instrument's resonances means
that the harmonics of the fundamental note are not systematically assisted by
instrument resonances, as is usually the case for Western wind instruments.
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Also, check out all these groovy modern variations:

http://www.didjbox.com/mindblower.php

[m1thr0s]

half a didge is the didge-player, providing bellows and acoustic variance through his/her whole body. Wiki doesn't know everything...try actually playing a real one and you'll see...though you need to give it time to sink in...they can be a little more difficult to play at first...but all that "non-harmonic" frequency stuff actually translates into character and manipulatable overvoicing options that you typically don't have with manufactured didges... so you can get all the sounds of the forest working at the same time sort of thing...

m1thr0s

[Dragon]

well...I considered the head-vibration thing of course and it may well be that but it still doesn't explain why it only affects the tube and nothing else. Lamps. Lavalights. Walls. Pictures on Walls. All ok. TV = wacked out. Weird. I figure it must be an interference pattern but I don't know about other observers...that's a good question. Haven't tested that. Didge played on a stereo doesn't seem to have the same effect...just live.

Sounds like progress is a happenin'...coolness...

m1thr0s


Tha's why I want to play with plasmas as well. I think it's because of the hyper detail actual in the visual field, meaning the bazillion little red, blue, and green pixels in a screen, as well as the intensity of the light source. Also the way they are patterned on the screen. The same effect that makes striped ties shimmer on the tube. Just theories so far...hehehe..waiting for more data.

My fave is about a four footer, shaved a bit to make a d major, and my low e, about 6 ft.
In the links I gave there are lists of wavelengths and their tones -just cut to size, same as a pipe organ. I use a digital tuner to assist in the final sanding. The same principle is in play with the reverb chamber and the tuners to capture waves in a room...just pick the desired pitch, find it's length, mark it out and grab it.

Yes MM, I know about the tuning forks. ;)


m1 - It's a big stone pal...but yea, it'll roll.

Ciao Miaos

~D~

[Dragon]

So I have found some possibilites for space to experiment in...now it's down to gear...THIS IS A WORLD WIDE CALL!!!...If you know anything about even the slightest leads...or have the time to track down some of the items you think might be useful based on my links or my previous post...it would be the coolest thing in the world right now. Olde ESTers...spare parts from research orgs or institutes...doctors? Mad scientists?

Anyone anyone?

Bueller... Bueller.....

I'm in FL for 10 days so I won't be around that much to track things down...it's like that.

I'll pick up the ball again when I return.

~D~

[MythMath]

Well, I can't send any hardware,
but I'm ready and willing to do any
parallel research or cross-checking...

[m1thr0s]

I remember this old star-trek episode featuring a malfunctioning transporter we could probably get dirt cheap...

adds a whole new meaning to turning lead into gold...:eek:

ah well...maybe stick to EM stuff for now...

m1thr0s

[fr.novumorganum]

http://www.heartcoherence.com/index.html

had to share this one...

[m1thr0s]

interesting link fr. novum...

here's one I just want to log so I can find it when I need it. I wouldn't be interested in using the tuning forks so much but it might be useful to know what frequencies they correlate to the various chakras etc...

Acutronics (http://www.acutonics.com/)

m1thr0s

[Oblio]

Maybe you've talked about this elsewhere (and/or share the concept), but I'm really interested in what you mean by trance.. the actual state you're going for would really dictate the level of stimuli you want to introduce to participants.

I initially think of two ways of seeing it, I'll try to describe, but verbalising about altered states can be tricky:

> could be seen as tuning in your consciousness/awareness to a certain frequency; depending on the goal of the working, could be low frequency brain waves, very slow breath, morphing low-frequency music, subtle pulsing lights etc.. perhaps ambient reds or blues (just intuiting here, partly from what I've experienced meditating). Trance parties are a great example (I've been to many without ingesting chemicals, and my heart, pulse, breath, and mind all synch with the music and lights, and then... difficult to describe the feeling really). Anyway, harmony across the stimuli would certainly help.

> but, I wonder if you want the participants to retain an active involvement in their headspace (that doesn't really put it well, but whatever..) - and this is where specifics of the working are needed. If you have an adept group, then a deep trance state might accelerate (for instance) their experience of the body of light, or enhance tantric/kundalini yoga.

However, you seem to want to experiment with inexperienced participants, to find a way of rapidly showing them the juicy stuff of energetic experiences. In this case, you might lose them to the trance experience (and whatever spontaneously arises there), as opposed to working on a chosen goal.

Hmm, you could prep them with simple workings (like middle pillar and energy circulation) and hope for that to come through - would be more suitable for people with a bit of experience.


I'd find a more basic project more compelling I think.. use the tools that people are already endowed with. So, start the session at 4 am, begin with breath work/qi kung, move to seated body scanning, where you simply pay attention to your body without interpreting it (so many people don't experience their body like that, and it can be surprisingly dissociating). I would then go to slow breathing (with attention still on the body), then move attention through the chakras/middle pillar, feeling the bodily vibration associated with each. Once at the level of feeling that energy circulating through your entire body (to some extent in control of where you move your mind), it would be a natural step to playing with the body of light.

As to external stimuli, I'm still debating whether eyes closed would be most effective, or rely on the lighting.. I'd probably go with low light (perhaps with primary hues - limestone candles could be very cool), but generally suggest closed eyes once the body work starts (and such ambient lighting would minimise intrusions if eyes did open). Perhaps also (for that spooky feel :lol:), multiple candles could create some interesting shadow play, which can be quite hypnotic.. - indeed, if you want to add an even more ceremonial feel to it, candles could be arranged artistically around the working circle (which of course could have the appropriate symbols within).

Sound is a bit trickier.. cause tastes can differ so widely, and you don't want to throw people off just because of that. I was playing with some Tibetan singing bowls today, and I was absolutely absorbed by some of the resonances they created. I would love to have someone rhythmically playing that throughout the working, perhaps with some psychedelic low frequency synths in the background. I would stay away from beats though, for people without much experience as that could too easily intrude into their working.

Incense probably wouldn't go astray either..
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Anyway, just some ideas. As I mentioned, I'm not entirely sure on your definitions/purposes, but this is certainly an exciting avenue of study, and I hope to do something like it when time permits!!

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On a different note, has anyone read on Stanislav Grof's "Holotropic Breathwork"?

I've read his "The Holotropic Mind", and he alludes to its use as a psychedelic/trance tool (for assisting healing of the psyche), but he didn't go into specifics. From what I can gather (and remember :), it involved breath work (d'uh), music/drumming, spontaneous creativity and some other stuff...


Best of luck with this research guys!

[m1thr0s]

Those are all very interesting ideas Caelum. I think, to be honest, I am not sure yet what I am looking for here. Moreover, I don't really feel like I know what all the possibilities might be yet. I think dedicated research & experiment will be the only way to hammer this out.

Essentially I want to try to ascertain what kinds of external supports already exist, or can be reasonably implemented that will tend to facilitate a Samadhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi) type experience without actually attempting to produce it overtly. So I am not looking to bowl people over with a lot of trance-tech stuff...most of which winds up feeling contrived to me anyway. The stuff I teach classes as Jnana Yoga in its own right and would ordinarily be expected to be preceded by mastery in other branches of Yoga, but I believe that this has been a stalling tactic from the outset and has primarily served to make it virtually impossible for anyone to ever approach these matters at all. The Yogas have fallen into pointless competition with each other never intending to work together as they were originally designed. I will need to develop this as a stand-alone sort of practise.

In truth, in a more civilized cultural environment than I am currently operating in I would actually prefer to work in a more shamanic modality, preparing students for a period of months...even years in some cases...to be able to enter into hallucinogenic space with strength and purpose, able to achieve powerful self-initiation experiences via the energy field-work practices they would have by this time memorized and mastered intellectually...but not altogether energetically. I say this simply because it works dramatically well when handled in the right ways and I am ultimately a LHP practitioner anyway, so time-saving techniques are considered perfectly valid to me...even if maybe 1/100 people should go nowhere near this sort of thing.

But I am not living in a more civilized culture and a shamanic form of teaching will not be possible at this time. It may, in some ways, be for the best anyway. There are things that can be accomplished privately that will simply never be possible publicly and perhaps they should not be attempted in any case. Yet there are things we know that we can do to at least facilitate altered states of consciousness without being unnecessarily *pushy* about it. These are the kinds of things I need to pinpoint. Some of the ideas you have suggested might indeed work in this context but I am definitely not looking for a trance-party type of environmental controls. Too unfocused for my purposes really.

I am going to be looking for anything that can achieve a natural energy-amplification sort of results via light & sound tech chiefly, as these will be more possible to set up in a fairly diverse sorts of environments. Being able to work within specially designed structures that utilize golden-ratio dynamics and the like also interest me as this makes perfect sense to me just intuitively. There is a certain "feeling" you get just standing under any dome for instance that creates the kind of balanced energy amplification condition I am looking for. Pyramids are said to have this quality as are geodesic domes and others. That's more to what I need...things we already know and have at our disposals that can create a "sacred-space" sort of feeling without slamming anybody with a lot of cheap gimmicks.

m1thr0s

[Oblio]

...things we already know and have at our disposals that can create a "sacred-space" sort of feeling without slamming anybody with a lot of cheap gimmicks.

Absolutely!

All the mystery traditions had this "simple" sort of thing going.. working in a cave for instance, with covered flames and deep ringing noises.

It may just suit me better, but I find imperfect set ups to work better for me. A natural cave or bamboo forest.. something enclosing and resonant, but with fractal "imperfections" really fires my spirit.


At the heart of it, Samadhi (which means much the same as yoga) is absorption of attention with itself.. a singularity of consciousness.. (but words tend to fail). At lower levels (as in before you can maintain consistency of attention without intrusion from body/thought for any prolonged amount of time), something that is novel and absorbing, but subtly/deeply powerful would be just the thing to reach a certain absorption with that item. As such this can be a foundation for deeper absorption..

Of course, we're no further along than before, with no clear suggestion for our stimuli.. but

But, chanting (if the meditator is not too self-conscious about it) could work. Pushing one of my personal favourites, singing bowls are very powerful. The vibration it sends through your hand while holding it.. the slow actions of striking... but most of all, the sound itself strikes something deep inside of me. Give me a tranquil spot with nice lighting and good air, and I will be the sound *lol*
Interestingly, each bowl has a voice, and some sound sweeter than others!

I had a great experience in the Chinese Gardens here in Sydney.. they've got a "bamboo forest", which is a stone path flanked by tall stands of bamboo that then opens up to a circular space near a stream. Sitting there, feeling the stone, the water and listening to the wind making the bamboo speak... it's easy to find yoga in that setting. Not technically Samadhi, but it gets close to the spirit of it.


One big sticking point is the resistance many people have to letting go of their normal parameters of consciousness. Also, and I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from with this, I can be resistant to things that people tell me will work :rofl: It would be easier for me if I could "surrender" to technique, but if I haven't found it myself, it doesn't feel real to me...

[m1thr0s]

One big sticking point is the resistance many people have to letting go of their normal parameters of consciousness. Also, and I'm sure you understand where I'm coming from with this, I can be resistant to things that people tell me will work :rofl: It would be easier for me if I could "surrender" to technique, but if I haven't found it myself, it doesn't feel real to me...there is a balance between skepticism and courage hard to define and even harder to teach. In order to assimilate anything beyond your natural understanding you must surrender to some extent...but not wholly or you cease to actually be learning. I am not sure how I will sort this out in terms of group teaching since I have only ever taught one-on-one as students more or less appeared from nowhere. But I am aware of the process in general, so that helps.

I am opposed to the notion of push-button immortality in general. What can be accomplished at length is already going on within us. The whole idea is to reach into that and bring it forward, allowing for a maximum amount of self-expression and a minimum of dogma. This is one of the reasons I am so committed to the physical focus...learning how to tweak the machine itself without trying to place any particular stamp on spirit.

m1thr0s

[Dragon]

I'e got some math to do...then I 'll be back with some results on the wave theorys that will be utilized in the experiments.

However long it takes. Gonna rock the Catbox.

~D~

[Fio Praeter Humanus]

This forum hasn't received a lot of attention yet but I want to begin focusing on it a little more, personally. I'd like to start a compendium of known trance-inducing technologies that do not rely upon drugs or extreme physical duress to work.

This is a old paper I wrote some time ago. It might not be what you are asking for but figured I would share.

Achieving Trance States
By Frater NERO

Achieving trance states and subtle states of consciousness is an integral skill in magick. I am actually surprised it is not discussed more often. Ritual work done over time will lead itself to shifts in consciousness needed for success. I have noticed from years of use the LBRP itself acts as a trigger and can instantly put you in the correct state of mind for work. Although these subtle shifts are not the purpose of this article, I would rather discuss full on trance states at this time.

Full trance states are useful for such things as Pathworking, mental magick, astral evocations, inner temple work, and symbol meditations. These of course are just a few examples. I have used a variety of different methods to achieve these states and by layering multiple techniques gathered from such sources as Regardie, the Cicero’s, and various astral projection books like those by Robert Monroe then testing them out through trial and error I have found what seems to work best for me. I am not saying this outline will work for everyone but it will work for many and give the others a good starting point to begin their own experimentations.

A few pointers before you begin. Be sure to be well rested before trying this or else you will most likely fall asleep. Also I would not suggest trying this right before bed due to being in a tired state to begin with also I have noticed that even a few minutes in a trace state leaves you feeling like you have been asleep for awhile and often you will be refreshed as from a nap and be unable to go to sleep or at least that is how it is with me.

1. The first step is always beginning with a banishing, better safe than sorry. Follow this with an energy raising technique like the middle pillar if you’d like although it is not necessary for something like a simple meditation but for other things it will help greatly.

2. Now I prefer to lie down on a firm bed, if you are more used to yoga postures or sitting meditations then go with what is comfortable. After this I tend to shift around getting my position just right and working any major muscle kinks out.

3. Now allow yourself to sink into the mattress. Basically what I am saying is release all the tension out of your body and let the surface you are on to support your body. Unless you consciously do this your muscles will automatically tend to support your weight.

4. Now that you are fully relaxed you should begin to regulate the breath. I do so with the four fold breath but any variation will work. Do this twice as long as you think you need to, it helps.

5. Now that you have proper breathing quickly scan your body for any sites of tension and work these out, using your hands if you must.

6. Now the real work begins, focus on your left foot, slowly making it more and more relaxed. What you are attempting to do is relax and focus only on that one foot until it becomes numb and heavy. Once you have achieved this shift your focus upon your right foot and repeat. After that go to your left ankle, then the right ankle, then the left calf, and so on. For some reason I find I have to treat the major joints separately rather than skip over them or include them with the nearby muscles. Continue in this manner until you are waist high then repeat all the legs as a whole, before moving up and finishing the upper half of your body. Be careful because during this stage you will often find yourself drifting off to sleep or losing focus on what you are doing. The real trick is complete focus. You are making your body fall asleep but keeping your mind busy so it doesn’t follow. You will know you have been successful when your entire body is numb and heavy and it would require a great effort to move. You know you have mastered this when you are almost done and you begin to see colors and lights flash behind your eye lids.

7. Now that your body is asleep it is time to move on to the mind. Repeat silently to yourself that you are now about to enter a deep trance state, that you are going to count backward from twenty and with each count you will sink deeper and deeper into a trance until you reach one and be fully in a trance. Begin counting, think 20…deeper and deeper, and allow yourself to feel heavier and almost like you are sinking deeper and deeper into the mattress. When you reach the count of one you will now be in a trance. You will know that you are successful when it feels like your mind is a sphere and it has shrunk in on itself and you are now only a tiny island of consciousness inside with everything else being asleep and dead and you are unable to feel anything.

8. Congratulations! You have now achieved the proper state of consciousness to perform your work. Now you can begin your Pathworking or build you inner temple. If you already have one you can perform workings and rituals within the temple. Simple symbol meditations can also be explored at this time. Be creative! There is almost no end to the things you can do in this state.

9. Ok you have completed your working and it is now time to return to the normal waking world. Be careful and do not jump up all of a sudden or it will be a hard jolt to your system. First you need to bring your mind back out of that state. Silently repeat to yourself that you are now going to leave the deep trance state, that you are going to count to twenty and with every count you will come closer and closer to wakeful consciousness. As you count allow yourself to come out of the state until you are fully awake at the count of twenty. Now that your mind is awake it is time to awake your body slowly. First begin with the fingers, slowly begin to wiggle them, followed the toes and so on until you shake off the dead feeling from you body.

You should now feel much rested and strangely like you just woke up but you were awake the entire time. Try to stretch and walk around and regain your bearings. You should also follow with another banishing before finishing the session.

As a side note to something I have noticed while experimenting with this you tend to lose all track of time. I have spent what seemed hours in this state but upon returning find only ten minutes has elapsed. The opposite is also true; I have spent only a few minutes in this state and over an hour of real time have passed. I only comment on this because it seems to happen every time. It seems that in that state your internal clock is turned off or just off.

[Ratatosk]

I usually use a very similar method to move into traveling states. However, instead of 'counting' myself down and up, I simply 'turn' toward my tower and walk to it. (It corresponds to the internal temple, but in my case is a stone tower with a walled courtyard.) Some days it is very close (meaning I am further under) while other days it is more distant. When there are a good deal of external thoughts and worries clouding my mind I often can't see the tower, and instead I head for the direction I 'know' it is in and convert those external things to rain. That way as I slog through the mud and mist toward the tower I can let those things lie where they fall, knowing that once I reach the tower the 'weather' will be perfect.

Once in the courtyard or within the tower itself I can move out quickly to other spheres, do astral work or simply meditate.

As an aside, I have found that it is a good idea to remove things like watches, if you are clothed remove cellphones or other electronic devices from your pockets, etc. I stopped wearing watches altogether once I learned how to do this. After destroying an lcd watch, and then a quartz movement, and then a combo watch which was really interesting - when I came to I realized I still had the watch on. I looked at it and the analog portion was not working, although it showed a time six hours later than the clock across the room, and the lcd portion was running, but in reverse.

[Kain]

Really nice paper, thanks for that Nero. I actually find this incident with my internal clock occuring all the time as well. I always found it a very interesting occurance...

Kain

[Yellowseed]

Ken Wilbur Stops His Brain Waves (http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=966) (youtube video)

Buddy got an old EEG machine, quantified some meditation, and dubbed an informative narration.

[m1thr0s]

Ken Wilbur Stops His Brain Waves (http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=966) (youtube video)
(http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=966)your link isn't going to any youtube video Yellowseed..wanna try that again?

It's ok to put your homepage in sig's etc...let's not confuse topics with misleading links though...

m1thr0s

[MythMath]

Your link takes me to the T-rex strip...

[Ratatosk]

I think this may be the link:
YouTube - Ken Wilber Stops His Brain Waves

[fr.novumorganum]

Although a brother, I am in no way endorsing Newcomb's devices, just adding the the repository of technology links here:

http://shop.vendio.com/centerofchanges/category/3032/

[MythMath]

YouTube - reactable: basic demo #1

YouTube - reactable: basic demo #2

[Naomi]

Ok when I am in a trance, I am not actually aware of it...

Like last night I was so fucked up I had no sense of propriety or intelligence, I was just stringing together bits of data and throwing it back out at the world from my perspective of divine feminine. (I was working the Nu Kua mirror)

Now in retrospect today I'm thinking that I was truly fucked up, but when you're in the middle of an experience very often you don't even realize it. You're just suddenly freed from the burden of worry and regret. You become less than nothing, you don't exist at all, only the experiencer, Ananta exists - we align - and so we are in balance, outside of time itself. Ananta ("endless) is the principle that dictates when someone says "I am the enjoyer of this, I am the experiencer"

Say, if people coud act like this all the time the world would be very peaceful and no one would really worry at all - because natural trance takes into account intricate responsibilities, unlike drugs and alcohol, which violently sever the link from society rather than integrate it naturally.

Plus, they destroy your body which is definately not helpful.

I would like to think there's a way to supply the need for trance inducing technology without the long process it takes to get there in traditional eastern metaphysics. Somehow between all of this geometry and lucid thinking there is a key to unlocking the template that will govern most of humankind's diverse thoughts into a cohesive whole - probably involving diet and mind exercises that cut through the BS.

I think the first step is non-awareness or detachment - when you become detached you move outside of the arena of worldly affairs and you are not connected to your actions, they do not affect your personality at all.

Residing in the mind and not the body, not being concerned with "what you look like" or "what you have become" and attaining the supreme knowledge of eternal unchanging self is a clue to attaining the supreme.

Another is proper diet and exercise - the mind settles into the body readily when the tool is able to be used properly, taking care of your health is first priority for nurturing excellent connectivity.