Working the I Ching

[imagenerator]

Other than for the purposes of divination, or the answering of questions, how do you folks employ the I Ching? I guess I should share my applications.

Reminder: drawing a hexagram and mounting it to a visible surface to allow my being to be sensitize to the quality of that form. For example, Where a mess tends to accumulate, I place hexagram 18, “Work on what has been spoiled” by the Wihelm/Baynes, which I've also heard referred to as as “detoxifying” in http://www.hermetica.info (http://www.hermetica.info/) translation.
This leads me to something I haven't tried, but just though up now, facilitate a change by mounting the hexagram change to either sides of some surface, I would think something coin-shaped would be appropriate. Hanging it up somehwere where it could twirl around seems the most apt placement.
Speaking of things I haven't quite worked out yet (ahhh, this great work ....) : manipulate the hexagrams on your fingers. I have assigned trigrams to finger sections, using the thumb to “key” them in by either touching the tip or mid portion of each other finger. I was going to write an explanation of the assignment, but then decided to just whip up a quick diagram here: http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/003/2/2/Trigram_Digits_by_imagenerator.jpg Using each hand, you can then place trigram ontop of trigram with your hands to make a a hexagram. And I'm sure this particularl point warrants a more extended discussion, but so does this thread, so I'll leave it at that for now.

[MythMath]

Cool, I like your 'digital' matrix...

And regarding the twirling coin idea:

Do you know about the Thaumatrope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaumatrope) ...?

A disk or card with a picture on each side is attached to two pieces of string.
When the strings are twirled quickly between the fingers the two pictures
appear to combine into a single image due to persistence of vision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_of_vision).

Examples of common thaumatrope pictures include a bare tree on one side of the
disk, and its leaves on the other, or a bird on one side and a cage on the other.
They often also included riddles or short poems, with one line on each side.
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Regarding your original question, I have a feeling much more
on the I Ching and Tai Hsuan will be presented here soon...

[m1thr0s]

cool pic...

I am sort of guessing that my response to this question belabors the obvious, since Mutational Alchemy is all about building functional elemental universes following the laws of physics embedded in the Binary and Ternary mathematics of the East, in lieu of the technological prowess of the West, which is substantial, despite its downsides.

If DNA builds upon these physics and DNA created us, I am content for the moment to follow its lead, understanding of course that there is a mystery not yet revealed at the level of DNA alone which is yet to be identified at the level of modern science. We know where the Binary system is at...we know pretty much what it's up to...we haven't got a clue what's going on with the 729 Ternary hexagrams of the Tai Hsuan Ching, but it's an almost-certainty that it has everything to do with the Mind itself, or perhaps more correctly, with Intelligence, which we currently have mis-defined as a by-product of a correctly functioning brain for the mostpart. It also has a great deal to do with Time, as a matter of possible interest.

Nevertheless, we can build what we cannot altogether fathom and our ability to build hexagrammal energy fields on either side of the aisle (binary or ternary that is) is going to wind up being our surest guage to finally understanding what they actually are and how they can best be put to productive use. We can simulate whole physical universe this way and there are not a lot of other ways that actually give us this ability in a way that we can scrutinize mathematically. I don't actually know of any, just off the top of my head at least. Angels are fun but they are not ultimately logical entities and they cannot serve us in ways that logical entities finally can...once we get past the unsavory bits that anal-retentive logicians have passed onto us that is...

So in a nutshell, Hexagrams are, for me, the ultimate scales of light and sound vibration around which all things earth, man and heaven can finally be correctly apprehended and physically mastered. They are the Oruboros Snake itself and I am content to spend this immediate lifetime learning how to build the Body of Light upon this most perfect mathematical guidelines...If every man and every woman is a star, this will either finally make perfect sense or it will go the way of every other worn out metaphor...

Trigrammaton is the Way...

m1thr0s

[Kain]

The most profound way the I Ching and Tai Hsuan Ching systems have helped me in my personal practice is by outlining "laws" that can be applied in energy manipulation sessions. Energy work of all kinds essentially manipulates the interraction between the active and the passive, or Strength and Form, and the I Ching defines in great detail exactly that, and all possible phenomena arising from that interraction. The Tai Hsuan Ching brings as a valid value that of balanced integration too into the system's variable factors, a necessary change to complement the other, "hidden" side of the already aparent polar co-ordinates defined in the I Ching.

Equipped with these fundamental laws of energy work, one can then successfully proceed to working on more complex elementals through the combination of such constructs.

Kain

[imagenerator]

On thing about the image I posted that I realized afterwards is that the ordering of the trigrams runs contrary to to ordering layed out in the Book of Alchemical Mirrors.

[MythMath]

'mage',

When I found this,
the hands at the bottom reminded me of your diagram:

http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/U/q/1/tol34.jpg

[imagenerator]

'mage',

When I found this,
the hands at the bottom reminded me of your diagram:



Thanks for the posting MM. Does that image come with a manual :laugh:. YEEEAA , so much work to be done...

[Anibis]

I am going to guess that that is a 'mudra system'. If you read the hands, you will most likely be able to work out the system... The thumb/forefinger touches the appropriate place on the digit, and if practice thuroughly would be done along with the prayers/incantations which are coded into the individual spheres and paths... Devotional practice.
-Anibis

[Kuroyagi]

In palmistry each finger is also assigned a planet:

http://www.astrologicallyspeaking.com/Articleicons/palmistry.gif

So one could maybe have all correspondences in ones hands.

It would be fun to research this further for sure. I for example also heard that those "strain lines" (vertical lines on the single fingers, not on the pic) will appear and disappear depending on how you lead your life.

[imagenerator]

According to Traditional Chinese Medicine, the fingers of the hand actually correspond to the 5 Chinese elements; this is something that is more grounded in an understanding of physical and subtle anatomy (meridians). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_(Chinese_philosophy) for correspondences.

[Naomi]

There doesn't seem to be anything on that page Imagen, did you check it and see if the address is correct?

Anyways, thanks for the reminder about the fingers of the hand corresponding to the flow of subtle energy currents.

[Naomi]

cool pic...

I am sort of guessing that my response to this question belabors the obvious, since Mutational Alchemy is all about building functional elemental universes following the laws of physics embedded in the Binary and Ternary mathematics of the East, in lieu of the technological prowess of the West, which is substantial, despite its downsides.

If DNA builds upon these physics and DNA created us, I am content for the moment to follow its lead, understanding of course that there is a mystery not yet revealed at the level of DNA alone which is yet to be identified at the level of modern science. We know where the Binary system is at...we know pretty much what it's up to...we haven't got a clue what's going on with the 729 Ternary hexagrams of the Tai Hsuan Ching, but it's an almost-certainty that it has everything to do with the Mind itself, or perhaps more correctly, with Intelligence, which we currently have mis-defined as a by-product of a correctly functioning brain for the mostpart. It also has a great deal to do with Time, as a matter of possible interest.

Nevertheless, we can build what we cannot altogether fathom and our ability to build hexagrammal energy fields on either side of the aisle (binary or ternary that is) is going to wind up being our surest guage to finally understanding what they actually are and how they can best be put to productive use. We can simulate whole physical universe this way and there are not a lot of other ways that actually give us this ability in a way that we can scrutinize mathematically. I don't actually know of any, just off the top of my head at least. Angels are fun but they are not ultimately logical entities and they cannot serve us in ways that logical entities finally can...once we get past the unsavory bits that anal-retentive logicians have passed onto us that is...

So in a nutshell, Hexagrams are, for me, the ultimate scales of light and sound vibration around which all things earth, man and heaven can finally be correctly apprehended and physically mastered. They are the Oruboros Snake itself and I am content to spend this immediate lifetime learning how to build the Body of Light upon this most perfect mathematical guidelines...If every man and every woman is a star, this will either finally make perfect sense or it will go the way of every other worn out metaphor...

Trigrammaton is the Way...

m1thr0s

That's a good post. I am really curious by the way about where the 729 Ternary Hexagrams are going to lead us in the future. It's exciting to know there is a way down a path that is ordered yet still veiled from the light of full daylight.

I think angels are idiots, I prefer making them my bitch.

yeah

[imagenerator]

A simple typo, here's the page address again : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_(Chinese_philosophy)

[m1thr0s]

appears to be a dead-end street imagenerator...

check your links before posting please.

m1thr0s

[Ci Celli Ddu]

Here it is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_%28Chinese_philosophy%29)