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Copuldaemon
01-04-2007, 07:15 PM
I've posted this thread as a spinoff of the hex/curse one because I don't want the discussion (for what it's worth) to go off topic and m1thros has suggested this option of speeding up one's karma process. Now before I go further, let me say that I think that concept is genius but before I say anything else, I ask how do one do this?
thanx

Sibylle
01-05-2007, 01:18 AM
I'd like to see m1thr0s' and others answers to this. I have the theory that people are who they are, and it is much more a matter of nature than nurture. If you've got a person who is close to you, whom you interact with on a regular basis, and this person has a penchant for harming people and causing trouble without cause, your actions are important and have an effect on them - including accelerating their karma. Openly criticizing or trying to "correct" or punish them can be great interference or the slowing down of their getting their just desserts. I think it is better to be supportive and encouraging of them, to the extent that you are able. It depends on the particulars of the situation, of course, but the more they violate the Law as is their nature, the sooner and the more harshly they will receive compensation for their actions. Not only might it not be your place to put them in theirs, but if you do so, you are preventing a far worse punishment from unfolding according to Nature.

m1thr0s
01-05-2007, 02:19 AM
I think that concept is genius but before I say anything else, I ask how do one do this?first I want to say that Sibylle's perceptions are as good as anything I really know about real people in real time. For the mostpart, the process of "growing up" is a kind of cementing process of attitudes and behavior patterns established much earlier in life and some of this may be "nurture" based but a great deal of it is "nature" based in fact.

The magickal slant on accellerated Karma is essentially a binding operation. To the best of my knowledge, in order to be effective at it you have to have pretty good access to Crown or Highest Crown energy (using the Tree of Life rhetoric)...either will suffice since at that level it's all about the same thing except for certain technical factors. This type of operation holds certain assumptions about human destiny in general...it pretty much assumes we are all here for essentially the same reason and are all going to essentially the same place in the end...we are all evolving along the same essential curve. That doesn't mean we are all the same and it doesn't mean we all wind up being the same bowl of cosmic jello or whatever. It just acknowledges certain commonalities among all human beings that makes them different from dogs or cats or whatever.

The principle of the "great work" is fundamentally a work committed to the whole of humankind itself as well as nature in general. It doesn't have to be approached altruistically because we are all tied to this whole process of "becoming" anyway. This means any one of us can approach this from a purely personal motivations. Anyone who may have made any kind of significant progress in this kind of work is considered to be closer to their own "godhead" than those who have ignored it or run diametrically against it, which we all have the perfect freedom to do. But when we do this, we are in deeper shit than we imagine because the only thing you get to keep is whatever you have "become".

Accelerating a persons karma then has to do with binding them to their own universal destiny and stepping up the amplitude by pumping the unbridled light of Crown/Highest Crown itself into their sphere, which inherently hastens the process. This can be done talismatically, or via spell-work or simply focused concentration, whatever works the best. It usually involves laying a standard of law against them representative of this universal destiny. It's not entirely unlike sueing the bastards for negligence save that nobody has to go to court. Because we are all on the hook over this matter of "becoming", we are all subject to being "nudged" closer to this outcome at any moment in time, through unforseen circumstances or chance encounters with people capable of tipping the balance just by their own natural state of being.

Magickally, it is possible to target anyone at all in this same way, and for some it will just be like being bathed in pure energy while for others it will be a death sentence...because they have set their own damn clocks against themselves and all you really have to do is "nudge" the scales a little. When this succeeds, people who are already slated to be *recycled* anyway will find themselves just that much closer to their fate. It doesn't tend to be very effective against national figures or people not immediately affecting you in some way for reasons difficult to explain but in a very real sense these people are the product of a group concensus and have to be dealt with in other ways.

I haven't messed with this too much but there have been a few situations where an individual's violence in my own sphere created such havock as to require adjusting the balance to *true*. I have thus far never seen it to fail. I can't say I understand it 100% but I mostly understand how and why it works the way it does. It is mostly only recommended as a self-defensive strategy when you are left with no other suitable options. By in large magickal attack is a fetish or a mental aberration projected onto others when the real source of the problem is you. People don't like to admit that and very often just can't see it but things are what they are. Every now and then a situation may come along that really does require some kind of intervention. If you wait for it to be completely real before you strike, your actions will tend to be much stronger.

m1thr0s

Okazaki Castle
01-05-2007, 10:40 AM
Magickally, it is possible to target anyone at all in this same way, and for some it will just be like being bathed in pure energy while for others it will be a death sentence...because they have set their own damn clocks against themselves and all you really have to do is "nudge" the scales a little. When this succeeds, people who are already slated to be *recycled* anyway will find themselves just that much closer to their fate. It doesn't tend to be very effective against national figures or people not immediately affecting you in some way for reasons difficult to explain but in a very real sense these people are the product of a group concensus and have to be dealt with in other ways.



Ah, if I might expound on that. I foudn thru my work at the beginning of this year that the world's governmental and political and super-rich are in fact living in another density band at the very same time as being physically visible to us all and appearing human. All it requires is money: no change in genetics, no change in awareness, no enlightnment, nothing of that sort. Just money and the attitude that you don't need for you will always have. Then you spend lots freely and have no cares. It is a wholly different way of life: freedom within this world, essentially. Not real progress spiritually or anything, and not the next density band properly speaking, but sort of a half-step there, eg density band 3.5

Now if humans are 3D animals like dogs and cats are 2D, for example. No mater how developed a cat or dog, he can't attack a human thru esoteric/spiritual means: the barrier can't be pierced. You can reach enlightnement, or Godhead, however. In so doing, you can then also send a karmic motion up to it. When that karmic motion returns to you, as it is your own personal karma, the planes open up: the death/birth process. This in turn opens up the barriers between planes. Physical circumstances will correspond. Using this, you can target that which is above you in density band, ie a higher lifeform, according to the laws of the system. Stupid way for it to work, but is how it is.

Another way to view that is that those at the top are there because a whole pyramid is beneath supporting and creating that position for them. That means you need to work thru that whole pyramid to get to that top percenatage you wish to target: normally they run what is sent at them thru those 'lower down the chain of command'. It is that pyramidal structure which forms, and is formed by, what is known as 'Group Karma'.

Thus, to attack the world's leaders or political personnel, such as Bush-Cheney for example, you need to realign the whole group karma to a vulnerable position. In so doing, you would impact on those lower down the pyramid unless you had something to replace thier previous group karma structures with. So, to be responisble in such action, you would need to place such an alternative there for them to 'shift over to'. Then, the pyramid can be safely pulled out from undeneath the leaders at the top who you wish to hit karmically.

This is part of what I discovered in regards to the workings we set in place for the Bush-Cheneu administration back in 2003. I always get my targets you see... nothing stands in my way or stays my hand once I've target-locked someone. Likewise for anyone else who wishes to target such persons: simply be unswerving in your hatred and you will reach your goal. And yes it is hatred (the desire to utterly anihilate your target, cause it to cease to exist in every way): that is how you get passed the Void with such a target. It's one of the ninja secrets that one, relates to third plane above the great void. And is why world leaders should be responsible: the ninjas are watching them... If they're irresponsible, we target lock them. Tis why Japan is so cool...

So I'd say this technique works 100% of the time. I'm using it on the Sirians also incidentally, who were 6th density at the top of their command. Interesting curve that one was, and may still prove to be. I'll know I've succeeded on that target when the star Sirius dissapears from our night sky. Prbbly backdate it beyond time to get a fast result now-ish I think...

all the best,
Oazaki.

Copuldaemon
01-05-2007, 02:54 PM
Oazaki, I like that post, SICK! but what you did in 2003 i'd keep to myself because you don't know who's watching, you know?

Anyways, I like this concept but I don't believe in karma. I do but I don't believe in karma as in what you do in this life comes back to you in this life but more so the next life which IS the interpretation here, but that is interchangeable as well.

I believe that I was an runnaway slave in my previous who was murdered by escaping but I've had alot of bad karma in my life that I'd payed (over paid cuz I'm waiting for a rebate check in the akasha box) but I wonder, did I kill alot of peopole, was I a bad slave (for lack of better understanding) or did I live in another carnation after that but black it out. I do remeber coming from hell though and it's not hell asin fire and demonic rape but it's a deep, dark, cavernous place with silhouettes and shadows. A huge place, I knew this place before I had any religious/ideo concepts instilled in me and I felt comfortable, at home so to speak.
ANyway,
moving on-
so as I'm saying is, I don't believe that the law of return be it grand or current affects me like so although we are on the same proverbial hook.

I think that junk comes back to you by people, not by gods, or universal flux the only way people will go after you is if they know it was you as the offender in the first place. I know many will disagree but that's my take and it works for me and so I hold it true, like a newborn.

Ci Celli Ddu
01-05-2007, 05:11 PM
The magickal slant on accellerated Karma is essentially a binding operation. To the best of my knowledge, in order to be effective at it you have to have pretty good access to Crown or Highest Crown energy (using the Tree of Life rhetoric)...either will suffice since at that level it's all about the same thing except for certain technical factors. This type of operation holds certain assumptions about human destiny in general...it pretty much assumes we are all here for essentially the same reason and are all going to essentially the same place in the end...we are all evolving along the same essential curve. That doesn't mean we are all the same and it doesn't mean we all wind up being the same bowl of cosmic jello or whatever. It just acknowledges certain commonalities among all human beings that makes them different from dogs or cats or whatever.

The principle of the "great work" is fundamentally a work committed to the whole of humankind itself as well as nature in general. It doesn't have to be approached altruistically because we are all tied to this whole process of "becoming" anyway. This means any one of us can approach this from a purely personal motivations. Anyone who may have made any kind of significant progress in this kind of work is considered to be closer to their own "godhead" than those who have ignored it or run diametrically against it, which we all have the perfect freedom to do. But when we do this, we are in deeper shit than we imagine because the only thing you get to keep is whatever you have "become".

Accelerating a persons karma then has to do with binding them to their own universal destiny and stepping up the amplitude by pumping the unbridled light of Crown/Highest Crown itself into their sphere, which inherently hastens the process. This can be done talismatically, or via spell-work or simply focused concentration, whatever works the best. It usually involves laying a standard of law against them representative of this universal destiny. It's not entirely unlike sueing the bastards for negligence save that nobody has to go to court. Because we are all on the hook over this matter of "becoming", we are all subject to being "nudged" closer to this outcome at any moment in time, through unforseen circumstances or chance encounters with people capable of tipping the balance just by their own natural state of being.

Magickally, it is possible to target anyone at all in this same way, and for some it will just be like being bathed in pure energy while for others it will be a death sentence...because they have set their own damn clocks against themselves and all you really have to do is "nudge" the scales a little. When this succeeds, people who are already slated to be *recycled* anyway will find themselves just that much closer to their fate. It doesn't tend to be very effective against national figures or people not immediately affecting you in some way for reasons difficult to explain but in a very real sense these people are the product of a group concensus and have to be dealt with in other ways.



I dont use the tree of life myself, but I have sped up people's karma often, to the point where I suspect that it in someway is my magickal default setting (though going down that road of thought only feeds my ego, and I prefer to keep my ego on a leash so it can't bite me). I use Will (of course) with either sympathetic magic or more often than not actual verbal suggestion to the target. It's a knack, for want of a better term.

Kain
01-05-2007, 06:23 PM
m1thr0s has put it very eloquently already, however here's a short description from me as well.

Indeed accelerating karma requires a good connection with the energies of Crown and Higher Crown to be properly brought about. It also presupposes a general belief in the assertion that we are all here for a specific purpose and ultimately respond to directions that are set out by a higher hierarchy, to which we are anatomically related although partially conscious of this connection. Adhering to this connection can be classed as adhering to alignment, divinity and higher Law.

I would classify this opperation as a simultaneous invocation and evocation, in which what I mainly perceive occuring is the bringing about of a certain "object" in direct contact with the currents and cycles pertaining to what might be reffered to as higher Order, Universal Law, or Rule of Equilibrium. What this essentially does is bring an other "object" 's existance face to face with a rule and reality that he/she/it has obviously become distant from, bringing the momentum pertaining to that higher sphere down with you. So you act like a conveyor, "introducing" your situation to the machinations of higher Law and bringing yourself under it's gaze along with the other object/entity, thus raising the stakes and invoking Equilibrium to discipline the wayward, whatever that is in the current situation (might as well be the aspirant practitioner). Thus, it can be said that one evokes Resolution and prevents further unnecessary oscillation.

It should be noted that premature exposure to the direct influence of this faculty brings about immediate incineration to anyone being the contact. The mythical "burning sunlight" works pretty literally here if one knows how to approach it directly, and I've personally gotten incredibly burnt from it in the past as I initially followed the very dangerous policy of self-instruction of exposing me to that Influence until being able to ingest it, sort of like a "baptism by Fire" in all respects. It is not usually approached as a means of self-instruction due to it's dangerousness (as it doesn't just burn your "impurities" and cleanse you in this case but burns you as you initially are pretty much of an impurity compared to it's rarefied state) although it's a very fast method that takes one "upwards" directly, bringing about not a single possibility of mistake as it calls upon Equilibrium Itself.

Kain

Ci Celli Ddu
01-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Hmm. Seems a bit complicated to me, terminology wise, to be honest. When I do this (speed up Karma)I believe in Equilibrium (or Karma) and I become (and therefore invoke) Equilibrium. Maybe the fact that I'm a Libra with five planets in Libra fires my ego to the extent that this invocation of Equilibrium and Justice always succeeds

Kain
01-05-2007, 07:40 PM
Hmm. Seems a bit complicated to me, terminology wise, to be honest. When I do this (speed up Karma)I believe in Equilibrium (or Karma) and I become (and therefore invoke) Equilibrium. Maybe the fact that I'm a Libra with five planets in Libra fires my ego to the extent that this invocation of Equilibrium and Justice always succeedsWell, terminology can very much vary in intensities of complication in such matters without impeding the success of the act itself I think. A complexity of terminology is no guarantee of success as we all are very much aware of I think, however, like the possible complexity of one's model of reality, it can in cases offer a more conscious manipulation of certain variable factors that in simpler definitions and more intuitive applications are perhaps ignored or taken for granted. So complexity can be viewed as a medium to growth and has it's place when used consciously in discussing such issues, as each of the discussed factors can be actually manipulated if one becomes successfully aware of it. That is not to say it is *necessary* however, just useful in it's own way. The direct or intuitive approach can be equal or better (or even the only solution) in different cases...for instance, the Tao being "beyond any definition". However discussing the mechanics of approaching an undefinable situation such as that could be and often is a field of considerable detail of descriptions. As long as we are conscious of not allowing such approaches turn into senseless acts of mental dissection, I think it can be quite helpful to be analytical at points.

Sure though, just "bringing it about" is often equally powerful I think.

Kain

Ci Celli Ddu
01-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Well, terminology can very much vary in intensities of complication in such matters without impeding the success of the act itself I think. A complexity of terminology is no guarantee of success as we all are very much aware of I think, however, like the possible complexity of one's model of reality, it can in cases offer a more conscious manipulation of certain variable factors that in simpler definitions and more intuitive applications are perhaps ignored or taken for granted. So complexity can be viewed as a medium to growth and has it's place when used consciously in discussing such issues, as each of the discussed factors can be actually manipulated if one becomes successfully aware of it. That is not to say it is *necessary* however, just useful in it's own way. The direct or intuitive approach can be equal or better (or even the only solution) in different cases...for instance, the Tao being "beyond any definition". However discussing the mechanics of approaching an undefinable situation such as that could be and often is a field of considerable detail of descriptions. As long as we are conscious of not allowing such approaches turn into senseless acts of mental dissection, I think it can be quite helpful to be analytical at points.

Sure though, just "bringing it about" is often equally powerful I think.

Kain

Wow, kudos on that. I hope university teaches me to express myself as eloquently as this. It sure isnt easy writing essays at 34 when youve pretty much spent the last decade living like Grizzly Adams :)

Kain
01-05-2007, 07:57 PM
Wow, kudos on that. I hope university teaches me to express myself as eloquently as this. It sure isnt easy writing essays at 34 when youve pretty much spent the last decade living like Grizzly Adams :)...hehe...Thanks Ci Celli Ddu, I appreciate the remark :tsmile:

Kain

m1thr0s
01-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Thus, it can be said that one evokes Resolution and prevents further unnecessary oscillation.that's especially succinct...resolution is definitely the right word in this whole business. In a sense, it could be said that the use of the term "karma" is really only figurative...in a more pragmatic sense we are dealing with a very direct kind of energy manipulation...not unlike "inoculation" in its own way. If we can imagine that an extremely negative or diseased energy "poisons", it should not be too hard to understand that an extremely potent positive energy "inoculates" after its own fashion. We only really know about the "acceleration" phenomenum by having observed it in action. Otherwise we might speculate about this but would not really know first-hand that this is possible.

There's a lot of different ways to apply this type of self-defensive strategy...it's not all the same thing. I work with talismans all the time...magickal mirrors is my preferred modus operandus, tantrically speaking. If some asshole gets in my face or threatens to do me any kind of harm, it is no big deal for me to slip in some incidental "link" to his worthless ass in my usual practice sessions. I have in certain instances simply written the clown's name on a piece of paper and slipped it behind whatever mirror I happen to be working on. Then I proceed to crank the shit out that tool...really raise the energy until you could fry a steak right off the heat of it. And I can attest to the fact that this energy will find its target if that target has in fact become an energy "problem" for me personally. But in the meantime. I haven't wasted one lousy penny going out of my way to honor his useless person. He made himself a target and I dispatched that target...it's what I do with energy "knots" in general.

So aside from the "grandiose" (which is just an attempt at explaining how it all works in some way), we could look at this whole thing as a form of sympathetic magick as well...the main difference being that you don't have to invest very much time or energy into "simulating" your target...it becomes a problem by its own design and you simply treat it as such in kind.

m1thr0s

Ci Celli Ddu
01-05-2007, 08:28 PM
I work with talismans all the time...magickal mirrors is my preferred modus operandus

Id like to hear more about these mirrors. I have a scrying glass, if that's something simular, though I have yet to use it.

m1thr0s
01-05-2007, 08:42 PM
a magickal mirror can be anything designed not only to receive a magickal charge but also bounce it back at you so that you can observe it freely and interact with it very nearly as you might another person you are conversing with...understanding that the language being used is more direct, because here you are relying upon scrying, or *weaving* work to establish that working dialogue. It's a horrible shame really that more people have not been keyed into this form of meditation...it's just such a natural and correct way to go about things really, yet hardly anything has been spoken or written of it. If I were not so persistent at following my own best instincts come hell or high water I might never have sorted it out at all. I literally had to begin a careful study of what the hell I was doing already to begin with. Little by little the pieces started coming together, and it turned out that I actually really did know what the hell I was doing. How or why I was doing this at all is a mystery I may never fully understand...it must be powerfully instinctive with some of us is all I can figure...

m1thr0s

Ci Celli Ddu
01-05-2007, 08:55 PM
a magickal mirror can be anything designed not only to receive a magickal charge but also bounce it back at you so that you can observe it freely and interact with it very nearly as you might another person you are conversing with...understanding that the language being used is more direct, because here you are relying upon scrying, or *weaving* work to establish that working dialogue. It's a horrible shame really that more people have not been keyed into this form of meditation...it's just such a natural and correct way to go about things really, yet hardly anything has been spoken or written of it. If I were not so persistent at following my own best instincts come hell or high water I might never have sorted it out at all. I literally had to begin a careful study of what the hell I was doing already to begin with. Little by little the pieces started coming together, and it turned out that I actually really did know what the hell I was doing. How or why I was doing this at all is a mystery I may never fully understand...it must be powerfully instinctive with some of us is all I can figure...

m1thr0s

It certainly sounds like something I should investigate. I'm not one to keep a record of my magick, but the only thing that springs to mind as to dialogues with objects is when using the Tarot, which for me has more to do with communication than divination.

m1thr0s
01-05-2007, 09:04 PM
Tarot cards are an excellent example of magickal mirrors in practical application, only here they are typically used to "divine" information right? But all you have to do to modify their whole function is to start scrying against them! Do whatever the hell you like, pentagrams, hexagrams, triangles, circles, whatever. Come up with something and also find some mantric application...some magickal formula or something you want to explore and voila...you've got a working mirror...because you've converted it into one.

For the life of me I may never understand how this most fundamental magickal impulse could have been so badly miscommunicated over time...little kids do this without even thinking about it while grownups can't wait to snuff it out in them...and to what good purpose...so they can haul them to church to be terrorized by some bloody corpse hanging on a godamn pole? Insane...the whole damn world is fucking nuts...

But I don't belabor this anymore. It is what it is. People are locked inside a mousetrap and many will stay there their entire lives. But I am pressing forward with mirror-working and have developed it thus far into a prettty sophisticated art form. I hope to begin teaching people more about this amazing form of meditation in the years ahead... And they can still be Christians if they want to be...I don't care...Christ never said much of anything about how to "pray"...that was all piled on by the HRC long after the fact to reinforce their own peculiar brand of superstitious behavior...

m1thr0s

Ci Celli Ddu
01-17-2007, 03:31 PM
There's a lot of different ways to apply this type of self-defensive strategy...it's not all the same thing. I work with talismans all the time...magickal mirrors is my preferred modus operandus, tantrically speaking. If some asshole gets in my face or threatens to do me any kind of harm, it is no big deal for me to slip in some incidental "link" to his worthless ass in my usual practice sessions. I have in certain instances simply written the clown's name on a piece of paper and slipped it behind whatever mirror I happen to be working on. Then I proceed to crank the shit out that tool...really raise the energy until you could fry a steak right off the heat of it. And I can attest to the fact that this energy will find its target if that target has in fact become an energy "problem" for me personally. But in the meantime. I haven't wasted one lousy penny going out of my way to honor his useless person. He made himself a target and I dispatched that target...it's what I do with energy "knots" in general.


I usually leave defense and counter-attack to my "Guardian", who will become involved whether I wish it or not. This "Guardian" made itself manifest through the results of its actions when I was 8. The effects of its interventions are always what can be described as poetic justice. I assume it is part of me.

Hairetikos
01-19-2007, 12:50 PM
I can't add much to this discussion, but I can give a few thoughts of my own. To begin with, my mother-in-law, who is a new-agey type, claims to have sped up someone's karma in the past. She told me that she went through the Lords of Karma, whoever they are. I actually came upon this term later on in one of Dion Fortune's books. I'm not sure if "Lords of Karma" is a veil for whatever processes have already been outlined in this thread, but whatever. Her idea of speeding up karma struck me as somewhat biased, as she did it out of vengeance, basically with the assumption that she had been wronged by this person and that their karma was bad due to this. Very "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality, which doesn't sit well with me. So because of this, her "speeding up karma" was really more akin to black magic, as far as intent goes.

Moving away from that, it strikes me that the whole idea of speeding up one's karma is reminiscent of the great work in general, if perhaps only to a lesser extent. If evolution will lead to illumination in the long course, and the great work is a "speed up" of that evolutionary force, then I'm sitting here wondering if karmic speed-up isn't actually one of the inherent objectives for every occultist. This might depend to some extent on what your definition of karma is.

L. V. X.,
Hairetikos

Kain
01-19-2007, 03:06 PM
Moving away from that, it strikes me that the whole idea of speeding up one's karma is reminiscent of the great work in general, if perhaps only to a lesser extent. If evolution will lead to illumination in the long course, and the great work is a "speed up" of that evolutionary force, then I'm sitting here wondering if karmic speed-up isn't actually one of the inherent objectives for every occultist. Certainly. *Resolution* itself can be seen as the stopping of any more unnecessary lingering and the bringing of a said object to it's "destined" eventual position through the fastest and most direct route possible. Thus, it is not so much an attack or a punishment of any kind, simply the fascilitation and evocation of all of our true nature. The reason it is not taken as a beneficial effect by the occasional receiver is due to his/her inherent "extensive straying" from this said nature, this distance being also the source of his/her experienced frustration. The only factor that perhaps should be brought up is whether or not after a said acceleration and onward this opperation causes the consciousness in question to "not make it through" to the realization lying on the other side of this ordeal at all. What I mean is that the process of realization/transcendance essentially has a conscious entity (possessing an egoic shell) of limited self-consciousness realize the expanse of it's nature and identify with an ego or "inner nature" that is a lot more all encompassing than what was originally perceived. This process, if conducted at usual speeds, is composed of the disassociating of oneself from identifying with a lesser egoic shell in favor of a higher one. However, at extreme speeds the realization of the "higher identity" is not really occuring and it can be questioned whether the Work is accomplished under such conditions. Consciousness certainly cannot "die" completely, but I think that it could actually result in it having to climb it's way up again from a quite previous point after such an ordeal...like a super-death of sorts that is not necessary at *all* and damages currently necessary constructs through the application of too much "right thinking"... "Death by the Appliance of Universal Correctness", perhaps...hehe...

Kain

Ci Celli Ddu
01-19-2007, 03:37 PM
Her idea of speeding up karma struck me as somewhat biased, as she did it out of vengeance, basically with the assumption that she had been wronged by this person and that their karma was bad due to this. Very "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality, which doesn't sit well with me. So because of this, her "speeding up karma" was really more akin to black magic, as far as intent goes.


In instances like this speeding up Karma is applied when there is absolutely no doubt that the target is in Karmic terms a scumbag, or when the action performed by the target was unquestionably one that has earned bad karma. Having said that, even if there is doubt (or alternatively especialy when there is doubt), speeding up Karma is one way of removing all doubt.

m1thr0s
01-19-2007, 04:23 PM
I usually leave defense and counter-attack to my "Guardian", who will become involved whether I wish it or not. This "Guardian" made itself manifest through the results of its actions when I was 8. The effects of its interventions are always what can be described as poetic justice. I assume it is part of me.yeah...I'm down with that...I know that cat as well...you don't want to cross that one...totally ruthless and sees everything...

it doesn't necessarily jump into every little thing...just the important things.

m1thr0s