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Copuldaemon
01-12-2007, 11:37 AM
You know I was watching La Setta last night (good movie) and there's a scene where they would be satanists are painting an upright pentagram in human blood of course.

Seeing that made me realize on how many dark or demonic films I have seen the usuage of such. I mean back in '87 when they had advertised The First Power in the newspaper, logo and all, I'd thought that they (whoever they were) were balsy in duing such. But since, except for the logo to the 'Idle Hands' movie, I've yet to see a sinister movie (oh yeah, Satanic with Angus Scrimm) that uses inverted pentacles.

I have an affinity for such and no I don't mean the Baphomet sigil, but I have had an affinity for such for it's a 5 knuckle point of inversed power but I'm talking off track here.

My point is, is that I suppose the inverted pentagram is so taboo that it being used is minor towards the major use of it being up right.

Now for those who've seen La Setta, or understand those devious subserviant orthodoxed satanist cults, I guess for the sake of convo, an upright pentagram could be considered in use since they hold the dark angel in high regards and or man worshiping such requires such a high divinity in man.

By now, after writing all of this, it seems like this post belongs elsewhere but I say nay, for I just like to write alot:p

Kain
01-12-2007, 02:00 PM
My point is, is that I suppose the inverted pentagram is so taboo that it being used is minor towards the major use of it being up right.Well, the first reason I think, is one of misinformation and ignorance rather than anything more sophisticated. Hell, I have people mistaking an inverted pentagram for a Hexagram (the Shield of David) for Xst's sake! :rolleyes:

It is also a subject of chosen focus however as you said yourself Copuldaemon. "Above" and "Below" are not set parametres and are relative with where one stands and what one aspires to connect to, so any symbol that uses line symmetry and taps to either "Above" or "Below" is quite subjective and depends on our own view of our point of power and whether we identify with it as being "Above" or "Below" from our respective standpoint. Symbols tapping "Below" are customary for Satanic imagery of course, however I can very well see cases where tapping to "Above" would seem more reasonable. So it ultimatelty depends on a lot of personal factors I think.

I'm quite sure producers and directors of similar movies have not followed this line of thought to this extent however, so we're left with ignorance I think...

Kain

MythMath
01-12-2007, 03:48 PM
Somewhat related is the common misconception that
the word Pentacle refers to something with 5 points...


Pentacle:

An amulet, talisman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talisman), a geometrical figure so used.
There is much confusion as to the derivation of this word,
but it seems most likely that it comes through Italian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language) and
French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) from the root pend- "to hang," and so is equivalent
to a pendant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendant) or charm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charm) hung about the neck.

From the fact that one form of pentacle was the pentagram
or star-pentagon, the word itself has been connected
with the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) pente (five).

In Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) translations the word is pentaculum, which does not
refer to five, since the Latin root for five is quinqu-; the words
pentacle and pentagram are not from the same language root.

Latin pend-, however, is the root to hang, as in suspend, pendulum, appendix.

Kain
01-12-2007, 03:49 PM
Pentacle:
An amulet, talisman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talisman), a geometrical figure so used. There is much confusion as to the derivation of this word, but it seems most likely that it comes through Italian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language) and French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) from the root pend- "to hang," and so is equivalent to a pendant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendant) or charm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charm) hung about the neck. From the fact that one form of pentacle was the pentagram or star-pentagon, the word itself has been connected with the Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language) pente (five). In Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) translations the word is pentaculum, which does not refer to five, since the Latin root for five is quinqu-; the words pentacle and pentagram are not from the same language root. Latin pend-, however, is the root to hang, as in suspend, pendulum, appendix.Very interesting Mythmath, thanks...!

Kain

Copuldaemon
01-12-2007, 04:29 PM
Yep.