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VenusSatanas
01-16-2007, 05:20 AM
Hello;

warning , long post

I paint and draw often and I have had a craving and a calling to paint a portrayal of Lucifer. A few weeks ago I had done a pastel painting of Lucifer on pastel paper; its a great idea but alas, I was not satisfied. The whole time I felt that I should be painting his image on a canvas. So, i began my quest to do a true tribute to Lucifer using a canvas and acrylics.

I bought a large 24x36 canvas and I have all the paints I need. I have this idea that Lucifer is neither male nor female. I do not want to portray the "fallen angel" image, but rather the Roman God who was a counterpart to Venus.

Here are some facts that I have gathered to create this image.


1. Counterpart to Venus, but is neither male nor female (androgyne)

2. Lucifer is the rising of the dawn, ( Venus is the morning)

3. represents Leo, and the heart chakra(as does venus, showing that they are one in the same)

4 represents sophia, and wisdom (venus is wisdom of the heart)

5.from what ive read there is conflicting info on the proper jewel and metal to represent Lucif. I have decided to use the Emerald and the metal Copper (which, incedetally, is Venus' metal and stone!!)

6. His crown which i am assuming has 7 stars

7. a glowing 9 pointed star to be integrated into the background.

8. Lucifer is libra, and Venus represents tarus I have decided. Libra, astrologically represents Venus and is equated with wisdom. Libra represents air which i associate with lucifer. Libra's metal and stone are different, however.

9. I read a post here where the caballistic number is 888. I do not use cabalah but I understand the significance of a triple 8, using numerology. I always assumed his number was 7 but, meh

10. Image of a book to represent wisdom and a sword, yes a sword, to represent the action that wisdom brings. He always represented the element of air to me for some reason, and I associate air with swords.

So, the intent is to create an image of a Romanesque androgynous lucifer who is holding a book and a sword, sitting on a throne and ushering in the dawn. Im excited and I will post a pic of my painting as soon as it is available. This is going to be a great work. WHen Im done I will present it to Lucifer as an honor to his wisdom and greatness. I will perform a ritual to do this. I am neither in debt or service to this god but I am in service an debt to Venus. The energy of Lucifer calls me and I can not turn away. I must know him and understand him through the process of painting this portrait.

comments and suggestions welcome.

silentjohn
01-16-2007, 11:27 AM
cool

fr.novumorganum
01-16-2007, 11:43 AM
I look foward to seeing this. Do you plan to use it as a contact portal?

Copuldaemon
01-17-2007, 10:05 PM
The tribute is very much understood here. I guess the spirit or conscious comes to all differently according to their own unique being.
I know the devil by the name of Lucifer only because the demons (who are not primarily western in thought) refer to him by that name.
To me, Lucifer is a woman or the aspect or forces of darkness are feminine. Please do not ask me how I've interpret this but Lucifer to me is a woman. But blah blah this ain't about me but you.
please do so and post a picture of it.
I'm to do the same or similar thing so perhaps we can compare (show me yours and i'll show you mines)-great idea nun the less

Okazaki Castle
01-18-2007, 06:19 AM
but I am in service an debt to Venus.

Please explain, you've got me interested...

Good luck and focus on the portrait btw... :)

all the best,
Oazaki.

Luciftias
03-06-2007, 09:59 AM
2. Lucifer is the rising of the dawn, ( Venus is the morning)

5.from what ive read there is conflicting info on the proper jewel and metal to represent Lucif. I have decided to use the Emerald and the metal Copper (which, incedetally, is Venus' metal and stone!!)

6. His crown which i am assuming has 7 stars

7. a glowing 9 pointed star to be integrated into the background.

9. I read a post here where the caballistic number is 888. I do not use cabalah but I understand the significance of a triple 8, using numerology. I always assumed his number was 7 but, meh

10. Image of a book to represent wisdom and a sword, yes a sword, to represent the action that wisdom brings. He always represented the element of air to me for some reason, and I associate air with swords.

comments and suggestions welcome.


Hey Venus,

Good to see you on here! Great crowd. Above I have quoted a few points from your post that I would like to talk about. Here are my responses:

2. The planet Venus is also associated with the evening. As the third brightest
visible object in the sky from Earth (after the Sun and Moon), it is sometimes the last "star" visible in the sky before sunrise. In this case, Venus is referred to
as the Morning Star and is associated with Lucifer. Venus is also sometimes the first "star" to appear in the sky at night. In this case, Venus is referred to as the Evening Star, and is associated with a different old Roman deity.

5. I also associate Copper and (especially) Emerald with Lucifer. The reasons for this are because of the Venus connection and also an old story (one of the "Percival" versions - by Wolfram Von Eschenbach if memory serves) where the Emerald from Lucifer's crown is knocked out by the Archon... er, I mean Archangel Michael during the revolt in heaven. This emerald gemstone was said to have fallen to Earth (along with Lucifer, I suppose) and is considered the real Grail by a group of Luciferian knights (in the story.) Also, the Emerald Tablet of Hermes (http://www.jeremycrow.com/tabula.html) connects in my mind with the giving of humanity of divine wisdom, which is what Lucifer did as well. Not the most scholarly set of justifications for the Emerald-Lucifer connection, but the symbology is meaningful to me.

6. That's a pretty good assumption, considering that one of the gemstones was Emerald, which is a planetary stone - and there were 7 "planets" known to the ancients. It could also be 12 stars, each corresponding to a constellation of the zodiac, like the female character in first verse in the Book of Revelation, chapter 12: "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:" This woman may even be intended as a Venusian figure.

7. I'm curious about how the 9 pointed star connects with Lucifer. Can you or anyone else tell me more?

9. Using the Greek system of "Isopsephia" and "Gematria", the original spelling of Jesus in the gospels (IESOUS) adds up to 888. See below:

Jesus = IhsouV = 10+8+200+70+400+200 = 888

[Sorry if the Greek letters in the equation above renders in the common roman alphabet.] I personally find 7 (The 7th "Gate of Light" in Qabalah is Netzach/Victory and Venus) resonates more strongly with Lucifer. Other people have calculated supposedly more appropriate numbers through various methods, but I haven't really looked into it.


10. One of the images that I strongly associate with Lucifer is Lady Liberty (and to a lesser extent Columbia) holding a book against the body with the left hand and raising a torch or lamp aloft with the right hand. Lucifer, like Prometheus, is a light bearer. (http://www.jeremycrow.com/Lesson004.html)

Just some ideas that may or may not help.

In Darkness Visible,
Jeremy "Luciftias" Crow (http://www.jeremycrow.com)
myspace.com/jeremy_crow (http://www.myspace.com/jeremy_crow)

Naomi
03-06-2007, 10:56 AM
As an aside, Venus is usually the third brightest object in the sky; sometimes Jupiter and the International Space Station surpasses its brilliance. Sometimes meteors are also brighter than the full moon.

frater luciferi
08-15-2007, 04:52 AM
666 was actually from an old word game that post ressurection x-tians and gnostics amidst the ancients would play. it was as much as 888 probably as far as the relevance of the ancients playing word-games with kabbalic numerology-an intermittent construct that is actually in the DNA of hebrew. which is only equalled in sonic frequency experments by sandscrit the second oldest relation. some had reputed that 666 was the name of ceaser , 888 is or could be lucifer yes...but it was a common name in the early roman christian tradition- being in relation to frater luciferi=which i plagurized his name for a psuedonym. his major contribution was being convicted of heresy for contradicting the church on the matter of allowing aryan priests as due to their mongrol heritage? the political paralells of this could not be entirely denied.

frater luciferi
08-15-2007, 05:04 AM
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this is the pattern that the letter A in the sanskrit intonation makes in sand from the vibration of a tray in the same pattern of harmonics. no one had experimented with the hebrew intonation of A but i would like to see that fractal.

MythMath
08-21-2007, 12:08 AM
The sinewave compositions that I've been working with,
create patterns that are similar to some of these cymatic displays:

New kymotrope video (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=1990)