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Copuldaemon
01-17-2007, 04:25 PM
A few years ago (2 1/2 I believe) I have posted on OF about this meditation that I've had about being in a dessert with an eagle with a pentagramed eye and so forth.
I don't want to go into detail for those who don't know and perhaps I will write in full what it was later for those who need to be refreshed but for now, I am counting on those who know to remember.
Anyway, just this morning, I can't tell you what'd started it, perhaps due to my praying before sleeping could have had something to do with it, but I was back at this same place that I've seen years ago and don't ask me how I know or what gave me this impression but
I believe the genii/djinn with yellow eyes is actually azazel and that he's chained or frozen or trapped in an etheric desert.
This is interesting and this is something that I am currently inspecting.

Naomi
01-18-2007, 12:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel

Good stuff there, of particular note:

'In the Marvel Comics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Comics) universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Universe), a demon-like mutant named Azazel is the father of the X-Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men) Nightcrawler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_%28comics%29) by the shape-shifter Mystique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystique_%28comics%29)."

Marvel's got a good record of pretty much all high profile beings on the planet, tis what they were designed to be.

And it came to pass when I saw the bird speaking I said this to the angel: "What is this, my lord?" And he said, "This is disgrace — this is Azazel!" And he said to him, "Shame on you, Azazel! For Abraham's portion is in heaven, and yours is on earth, for you have selected here, [and] become enamored of the dwelling place of your blemish. Therefore the Eternal Ruler, the Mighty One, has given you a dwelling on earth. Through you the all-evil spirit [was] a liar, and through you [come] wrath and trials on the generations of men who live impiously. — Abr. 13:4-9

NO YOU!!!

And Azazel taught men to make swords and knives and shields and breastplates; and made known to them the metals [of the earth] and the art of working them; and bracelets and ornaments; and the use of antimony and the beautifying of the eyelids; and all kinds of costly stones and all colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray and became corrupt in all their ways.

YES, GODLESSNESS! Woo hoo!

Sounds like a fun guy...so does he want to be free or something? That desert is I think, midway through hell.

Okazaki Castle
01-18-2007, 01:11 PM
Didn't I free this dude back on OF over the First Period? Where, O where, has Azazel gone? that thread...

If he's still chained in some ways, would be willing to help...

all the best,
Oazaki.

Naomi
01-18-2007, 01:16 PM
Well that's what I thought, seems kinda weird....

Okazaki Castle
01-18-2007, 01:50 PM
Prbbly more stuff still taking its time to seep out of Eric's Bael gate. Being a Jewish king and so on, he likes to hold onto what he views as his, which translates as everything that falls within the imaginary circles he draws. For example, he, or OF itself, claimed to own the copyright on all the material posted on OF... Guess that makes releasing Azazel his own self-chosen responsibility. See why we all wanted to use his Bael gate? Make the greedy jewish fucker work for us...* :laugh: :laugh:

all the best,
Oazaki.

* greedy = Excessively desirous of acquiring or possessing, especially wishing to possess more than what one needs or deserves.
jewish = of or relating to Jews or their culture or religion; "He is Jewish"
fucker = someone who engages in sexual intercourse

Distinct from racial perjury in that Naomi is also Jewish and a fucker, but not greedy. At least not in the same way. I am also greedy, and a fucker, but not Jewish, though I did do King David in one incarnation. As such, I always viewed Eric (Solomon, though he never understood harems properly incidentally...) as my responsibility... children eh?

Copuldaemon
01-18-2007, 02:08 PM
Well I'm a negroid hispanic so...


and y'all sound like there's a personal connection that's private should I be jeal?-just kidding.
but it makes me wonder with what is written, could you be far from the association of a certain overwieght feline?????

as for the dream, i willget back on it later, i have to go out but first i want to post something else.

Naomi
01-18-2007, 02:08 PM
Hahahahaha!

Ci Celli Ddu
01-18-2007, 02:09 PM
fucker = someone who engages in sexual intercourse


...or would like to...

Okazaki Castle
01-18-2007, 02:16 PM
Nah, that's more of a wanker... Or as we say in Greek: Malaka. That goes with this phrase: I patsoi einai oloi malakes. That means: 'Hello officer, how are you this morning?' If they question it's meaning, be sure to point out that you are only telling them the truth - do they deny it?

Ah, anyway, we're being mischievous on another thread. See what happens when you let discordians in, everyody starts worshipping Eris...

So anyway, I found Azazel (http://forum.sithnet.net/forum/member.php?find=lastposter&f=51) He's apparently being a Sith Lord and is doing world domination. All up to scratch then... The desert of loneliness is apparently a head space and doesn't have to relate to physical or astral location. You can localize it and use it to give to other people. A bit like how Kain Doshi lets himself feel fear so that he can give it to his enemies...

all the best,
Oazaki.

Copuldaemon
01-18-2007, 05:05 PM
worshipping Eris...

FUnnY-FUnnY-FUnnY how this came up to my sight again after starting to read condensed chaos-connected, hmmm?????.....
I am going to write more on this tonight or later but now I get to paint and look at a movie.

Copuldaemon
01-19-2007, 12:10 AM
Okay, let's get this on and poppin'.

Going back about 2 1/2 years ago, I (who then was doing alot of meditation/visual workings) had came across this red desert. It was very barren as a barren red dessert could be. The sand was red only because the sky was this red, but not any red, this ancient red and so everything had this red glow to it.
Okay so there was this dead tree and when I had approached, there was this desk with a woman's ass showing me the pale moon because she was bent over the desk. Who she was was not important when compared to the fact that she was entangled or next to a long scroll with writting on it (what scoll doesn't) and a very generous/over generous amount of semen on her ass. I think she was chained, I don't know.
But an eagle flew away from the scene. This eagle had a pentagram over it's eye (left side I think). I don't think it was branded or it was inked but it was there. Not too far from this scene was a mountain or mountain line. sOMEwHERE near or in a mountain crevice, there was this genii/djinn. I say genii because he had the ali baba get up, turban included/djinn because his eyes were yellow, he had tiny little sharp teeth. He was in a stare, frozen or appeared to be that way and he was sweating or that his sweat was frozen and when I type frozen, I mean like suspended along with this being instead of frosted.
I remember posted my experiences and I had a few key responses. I had also shared this with a very powerful psychic/clairvoyant, also OF related but didn't get much feedback from that.

Okay so 2 nights ago, I'd decided to start a self portrait of myself (spiritually speaking) and I had the urge to begin the background as a fiery red/orange in oil base. So before sleeping, I had bowed to my shrine, praised the devil and told him/her that if following him means to suffer then I'd do that, if following means to die horribly or to die horribly or to be maimed or imprisoned a thousand carnations, I'd do it and or if I'd end up a victim because he really is the typical hollywood satanic deciever, mankind hater, I'd still worship him because I belong to him/her. The important thing is not what I had said but the feeling behind it because I'd MEANT it.

Then later that night or should I say right before getting up I was conscious to myself in the self suggestion to paint the devil instead of myself kind of like a tribute or something and then right after that thought, visually I was taken back to that same red spot in the dessert.
There was no scroll or eagle or genii, but the desk, with chained ass and dead tree was there. BUt this time, there was this luminous shadow chained to the tree moving back and forth fast enough for me to NOT catch a glance. This voice more like a thought inside of a thought told me that this is Azazel and this is where he fell. So I'm like Woah!

Perhaps the genii is also him but frozen; hell I don't know.

Another thing that has nothing to do with this but going back 3 YEARS AGO, there was this female demon with long hair, snouty nose, black eyes, and blotchy skin called me master and welcomed me. Her name was Luzabel. So I never really contacted her after that but I know she's there for me if I need her. Just tonight by watching 'Satanico Pandemonium' the devil introduces himself as Luzbel which means Lucifer in Mexican. WTF are the odds, pure foolery on my part and I bet it's to do with madness.

I say that because a few weeks ago, a thought in my head was something to do with music and the word "Ancient Malicus" in red writting. Three nights ago on Myspace, I run across Ancient Malus in red lettering.
So obviously I'm sloothing around because like a mystery movie, this is a clue as suppose that when this happens, something important is to happen even if at the time this word in my head meant nothing to me. Well, the moons waxing in Capricorn, heading into Saturn, and being backed by Mars.

Also peep this, I just realized that the red dessert vision was 2 years ago, Luzabel 3 and Ancient Malicus word was 3 weeks ago but the genii/azazel vision was two nights ago.
ANybody gOod with NumerologY??

Kuroyagi
01-19-2007, 06:57 AM
I cant remember that thread do you have a (cached) link or anyhting..? It would be interesting to see some of the answers that were valuable to you so that I dont bore you. Generally speaking the tree seems to be the typical tree of initiation, in my case there were also various animals, some of them skeletal, on it and also fetishes. the woman has a strong moon/goddess symbolism and the eagle is maybe a guide...did you follow it? the mark over the eyes of such animals could be the indication of an astral order you belong(ed) to but thats all speculation, as I said...somewhere round there its likely to find an entrance to the underworld. (or have you gone further already??)

Ci Celli Ddu
01-19-2007, 07:55 AM
Nah, that's more of a wanker... Or as we say in Greek: Malaka. That goes with this phrase: I patsoi einai oloi malakes. That means: 'Hello officer, how are you this morning?' If they question it's meaning, be sure to point out that you are only telling them the truth - do they deny it?

Ah, anyway, we're being mischievous on another thread. See what happens when you let discordians in, everyody starts worshipping Eris...

So anyway, I found Azazel (http://forum.sithnet.net/forum/member.php?find=lastposter&f=51) He's apparently being a Sith Lord and is doing world domination. All up to scratch then... The desert of loneliness is apparently a head space and doesn't have to relate to physical or astral location. You can localize it and use it to give to other people. A bit like how Kain Doshi lets himself feel fear so that he can give it to his enemies...

all the best,
Oazaki.

Here in the British Isles you don't have to have sexual intercourse to be a fucker.

Copuldaemon
01-19-2007, 09:49 AM
I cant remember that thread do you have a (cached) link or anyhting..? It would be interesting to see some of the answers that were valuable to you so that I dont bore you. Generally speaking the tree seems to be the typical tree of initiation, in my case there were also various animals, some of them skeletal, on it and also fetishes. the woman has a strong moon/goddess symbolism and the eagle is maybe a guide...did you follow it? the mark over the eyes of such animals could be the indication of an astral order you belong(ed) to but thats all speculation, as I said...somewhere round there its likely to find an entrance to the underworld. (or have you gone further already??)


Thanks for replying on topic duke. Before I respond to that though, first I must point out that I am surprised about the re-entering to that place because that NEVER happens. That's like you and your friend having the same exact dream type stuff...
So I'm like taken back by that because the connections are beyond and boggling and that I'm still where I've left but at someplace else or could it really be that Azazel is trying to call out to me.
There is an affinity (or fetish) with between me and it but when I say Azazel, surely I am referring to what's inside of my mind, not outside of it or what's in your's or anybody else's head.
The tree (did I mention) was dead as in the first time I was there?? I don't think the eagle was a guide but perhaps my jungian archetype of pride or the luciferic spirit of pride in thought (and this is before I was interested in such a path)-hence the pentagram (upright) on it's eye and no, I haven't thought of being apart of an astral order and I think I'd know and if I were and not aware, shame on my ectoplasmic lodge brothers and sisters. Oh and no, I don't think the cum splattered buttocks has anything to do with a goddess or her moon, lol.hahehehe.

Copuldaemon
01-19-2007, 10:09 AM
-I don't know how I've found this other than being smart because OF or the new OF or the badly reconstructed OF is really messed up and I ain't even there anymore but anywhere, this is what I'd wrote. I haven't read it like take it in myself yet. I have to go out but will continue this venture later.


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http://occultforums.com/forum//style_images/1/spacer.gif okay well i have been contemplating this dream for a few days now and i am going to take a crack at this.
they say that when you dream, all aspects that you encounter are really yourself. so assuming that it was all me facing me in this respect,
i will say that (maybe) the eagle was me, a spirit that was now free and proud to travel anyway, and the pentagram that was on his head either was saying that i am free due to my occult knowledge and whatnot or it was a pentagram of protection.
being the eagle, i was traveling besides myself to a volcanic, desolate land which could be the pit of my soul ( a hell so to speak)
and when i was at the desk it could mean the actual desk that i work and do everything on.
so the female with the stuff on her but is saying to me that this aspect of life is what i have already conquered.
an the eagle (my higher or free-self) standing on the scroll means... i still don't know what the hell that means.
but the genii on the side of the volcano sitting, frozen in it's meditation could actually be the magic or occult side or powerful side or demonic side ( i don't know but it represents some side of me) looking into one self to find a true answer to all things.
but if the dude was like that for a nameless amount of years, then that could mean that i already have been looking inside myself for along time.
i don't know, but that' s the best that i can come to.
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http://occultforums.com/forum//style_images/1/spacer.gif now before i go into this, i understand that some words are not tolerated but understand that some of the scenes are graphic and if anybody finds this offensive, please know that i am explaining something that has occured and i will make it to the best of my ability to be decent about it.

last night, i had a dream that i was flying on the left side of an eagle. on the eagle's head, there was this astral pentagram on the side of its face.
we were approaching this rocky cavernous land, with a red sky. it looked pretty old and ancient, i mean the feeling was that it was old and ancient.
now, when me and the eagle landed, we slid down this mountain side into this big cavern like pit.
50 feet away from me, there was this old, dead black tree.
so when i approached, there was this desk, and the eagle was perched on it.
now i'm not being nasty but there was this woman bent over, showing me her naked but and (you can imagine) what was on it.
I didn't see her face, just her but and on the otherside of this woman, and the eagle was this chalice.
now when i looked back at the eagle hoping to find an explanation, the eagle was standing on this long scroll.
i mean it went from the top of the desk, to the bottom of the floor. i tried to look at the words, but all i've seen was a bunch of letters scrunched it together: yyyywwwwxxxxxaaazzzzzyyyy-stuff like that.
i couldn't make any sense of it, then at the end of this vision,
it seemed like i was climbing up the mountainside to reach higher land, and on this jaded cliff of what i had percieved as a volcano,
there was this fat, pudgy man sitting indian-style on this capet.
he looked like a genii because he dressed like one, (in persian fashion) but instead of a swami turban, he had on a cufi, a big purple cufi.
this guys eyes were yellow, and his arms were at chest level and his fingers where locked together forming a triangle that was at one minute pointing down and the next minute, pointing outward.
i would of tried to speak to this guy, but i could tell that he was frozen in his meditation what seemed to of been for a long time, i got the impression that he was like that for eons, only to be found by me in todays spirit calander. (if yall understand that)


then the dream was cut short as i awoke from my neighbors banging on the walls.
somebody please explain what this means.
thanks.
i would of put this in the dreams interpretation thread but that already have alot of pages.

Kuroyagi
01-19-2007, 10:54 AM
Thanks will read that later since Im a bit short on time now. Only to clarify:
About the tree: I was referring to some trad. stuff. There are basically three trees- the first is without leaves or dead. It is the tree of initiation and stands at the entrance to the underworld. Another is of fire and another is green: the tree of life. (those three are actually one: The Tree that goes through all planes- like Ygg-drasil etc.): this is simply a suggestion by tradition.

lol, With "fetish" I meant some "thing": like a feather or some other trinket hanging on the tree that you saw there and that could be a clue...(not like: a foot-"fetish".)

Also why do you think cum and buttocks have nothing to do with the moon or a goddess- what is your interpretation of it?

Ci Celli Ddu
01-19-2007, 11:48 AM
Also why do you think cum and buttocks have nothing to do with the moon or a goddess- what is your interpretation of it?

Cum on buttocks is a distinct possibility if a goddess moons me...sorry, there was just NO WAY I could let that one pass...:laugh:

Copuldaemon
01-19-2007, 12:17 PM
ha, yeah i was trying to be funny with what i'd said but you took the cake.

Copuldaemon
01-19-2007, 12:24 PM
About the tree: I was referring to some trad. stuff. There are basically three trees- the first is without leaves or dead. It is the tree of initiation and stands at the entrance to the underworld. Another is of fire and another is green: the tree of life. (those three are actually one: The Tree that goes through all planes- like Ygg-drasil etc.): this is simply a suggestion by tradition.
Hmmm...okay, I see what you're saying with that, the question is will I get to see a green tree (do I want to??)

lol, With "fetish" I meant some "thing": like a feather or some other trinket hanging on the tree that you saw there and that could be a clue...(not like: a foot-"fetish".)

Also why do you think cum and buttocks have nothing to do with the moon or a goddess- what is your interpretation of it?
No I do mean fetish the way I'd wrote it which had nothing to do with what you've written and I don't know why I don't thin; well...okay well in that respect, I highly doubt a goddess of any planet or plane would bend over for me. I mean if a mundane woman just doesn't do that (and they're devine although devilish) why would a goddess??
Plus, I take the whole subconscious using pictures to communicate something but I haven't figured that out yet.

Kuroyagi
01-19-2007, 12:55 PM
well guys you must know that I have absolutely no humour at all. :P

(and Ill prove it by being frank): I really cant understand at all why any self respecting being would want anyone else to interpret his own dreams or visions. The impression I get is that you are waiting for someone to come up with a solution or interpretation that "clicks" that fits your (maybe dark or satanic or whatever) beliefs and expectations and preconceptions but why dont you try to find out yourself? I cant grasp why you dont learn lucid dreaming or pathworking or contact Azazel yourself and simply ask. Instead you expect ppl who dont know you to come up with a solution that suits you. Unfortunately I must say that the solutions one comes up with by those introspective techniques are not always as self-gratifying or clear cut as those presented by psychologists or mediums or any other persons to that you give your story.

First you ask some wishy washy question about your own being and then you "correct" any wrong suppositions that must necessarily result from those sparse infos you give-its more than ridiculous. maybe Im alone among occultists with this opinion and surely someone who "helps you out" and interprets it "correctly" for you may come along but basically I really must say that these typical modern delegations of responsibility get on my nerves. If you want to be a magician then learn to know yourself. (...that was humourless wasnt it- yet this is my kind of humour...oh Im so misunderstood! please could anyone interpret why Im always so misunderstood ;))

Ci Celli Ddu
01-19-2007, 01:04 PM
Interpretation of dreams is subjective. What's important is what does the dream say to you? In magic we all create our own network of symbolism, or choose ones that differ, and store them in our conscious and subconscious minds. In computer terms, only you know what you've stored on your hard drive.

Kuroyagi
01-19-2007, 01:24 PM
p.s. On a lighter note: you dont have to worry about a goddess that would reject you- goddesses like Venus or Selene like to fuck with all humans, if you know how to contact them. Experience and age isnt an issue- so dont worry bout it and learn invocation and some scrying or poetry or whatever its called- there are various techniques. (if you want my take on how to get along with women I can also give you that- when having some time... :))

Copuldaemon
01-19-2007, 07:56 PM
well guys you must know that I have absolutely no humour at all. :P

(and Ill prove it by being frank): I really cant understand at all why any self respecting being would want anyone else to interpret his own dreams or visions. The impression I get is that you are waiting for someone to come up with a solution or interpretation that "clicks" that fits your (maybe dark or satanic or whatever) beliefs and expectations and preconceptions but why dont you try to find out yourself? I cant grasp why you dont learn lucid dreaming or pathworking or contact Azazel yourself and simply ask. Instead you expect ppl who dont know you to come up with a solution that suits you. Unfortunately I must say that the solutions one comes up with by those introspective techniques are not always as self-gratifying or clear cut as those presented by psychologists or mediums or any other persons to that you give your story.

First you ask some wishy washy question about your own being and then you "correct" any wrong suppositions that must necessarily result from those sparse infos you give-its more than ridiculous. maybe Im alone among occultists with this opinion and surely someone who "helps you out" and interprets it "correctly" for you may come along but basically I really must say that these typical modern delegations of responsibility get on my nerves. If you want to be a magician then learn to know yourself. (...that was humourless wasnt it- yet this is my kind of humour...oh Im so misunderstood! please could anyone interpret why Im always so misunderstood ;))

Oh word, that's how you take all of what I've decided to share? For real?? I don't know you feel that way but if that's the case, don't respond to my threads/posts. Personally, I don't know you but I'm not feeling your vibe so I'm just going to ignore you. As for the topic in discussion, I'll get back to it when I have more time for it-seriously.

Oh btw, no I don't need help from you or any man about women. No offense though, I seriously doubt you could handle the females that I know.

Kuroyagi
01-20-2007, 09:32 AM
Hey, no sweat! All I suggested to you is that you learn to effectively communicate with your "subconscious" (gods etc.) instead of merely looking at it/them. You know why? Simply cause if you dont make "contact" you will endanger yourself of falling into dogmatism- meaning you will be an easy prey for ppl and cults who play to those unchanging, calcified images in you. If you want to think it over again once your anger has cooled off we can discuss it. Its my HO and I thought that it may offend you but that you might also consider it. But you neednt worry: Im no vigilante who wants to convert everyone to my opinion. So I wish you good luck and hope that others who can understand you better may help you.

Copuldaemon
07-19-2007, 03:48 PM
I promised that I'd return on this subject although the timing is OFF. My take on this meditation is that the genii is an aspect of myself not frozen but suspended as in conscious but bound within that state (dead by dreaming?) and the eagle with the star must mean my spirit's goals towards divinity and not material pursuits.
The female's but over the desk with the genetic contribution splashed all over her is a wish from my subcons to release the genii (raw power) and the amount must mean a respect in the length of waiting.
The long scroll in different language that is stretch over the desk I consider to be my subcon's view of all the journals and texts that I've read or written (including pre-self help treatise) and it all jumbled together is the view of how it's deciphered to bring the actual meditation to focus.
The desk must be the platform in which the spiritual goal or need to ascend is based and the desert being of red sand obviously means internal anger to the point of no life which means that the withered tree is also dead but dreaming.
I'll say no more. Thanks.

Naomi
07-19-2007, 04:13 PM
lol Kuroyagi knows the meaning of effortless effort...he doesn't have to handle any females. He just moves away. It's like mind Taijutsu.

So how the hell you been Copuldaemon? You havn't been dragging me into more of your dreams have you? Tehehehehehe!

Eagles generally mean phoenixes, and phoenixes mean original fire, the Lord of the place between death and life, darkness and light. Blink, and you miss it.

Eagles are incredibly auspicious to my so-called "people" you know. Everything about them was holy, even if they took a crap on you. Sort of like cows are to Indian, except...without the slimy stinky breath and edible secretions. Too bad you live in NY you could probably get one to drop a feather for you. I used to find them all the time by the Nutsack river in WA. Don't you have Peregrine falcons though? They work as cousins to Eagle. It's not all the same, but it's close.