Role Stealing Games

[Okazaki Castle]

This thread is for what I call Role Stealing Games. This is an incarnative system and within it there are various positions, or roles. For example, the role of Father, the role of Opponent, the role of Lover, the role of King. There are more complex combinations too, for example: best modern sculpture artist in London, second best recognised sculpture artsist in London, President's closest confidant, famous person most desired by teenage girls, and so on.

To steal a role from another person you need to occupy that role better than them and dominate it more than them. That is to say: you have to do what they do in that role, which got them that role in the first place, in a better and more total way. Now. You can then do a -1 on that. That's when you are the person who corresponds to the role you wish to take. As opposed to just 'acting out a role' you become the sort of person who, if you were to act, would fulfill that role perfectly, and better than anybody else. That makes it Role Being Games, as opposed to for example The League of Albion's Role Playing Games ('The entire world is a stage and we are all players upon it').

That gives us RBG, or Really Big Giants. And already we're getting mythological. You then have to interface that role with this reality in some way which is valid and real and consistent with your physical life circumstances and who and what you are. So for the RBG thing, I do Nephilim Dwarf for example. Being 6''5' that works out quite well for me, and is believable. Also, I happen to have Nephilim genetics from my father's side. That's the sort of stuff I mean by keeping it real.

So, this thread you can all experiment and play with that if you like. Using it for magickal purposes, for example.

all the best all,
Oazaki.

[Ci Celli Ddu]

To steal a role from another person you need to occupy that role better than them and dominate it more than them. That is to say: you have to do waht they do in that role, which got that role in the first place, in a better and more total way. Now. You can then do a -1 on that. That's when you are the person who corresponds to the role you wish to take. As opposed to just 'acting out a role' you become the sort of person who, if you were to act, would fulfill that role perfectly, and better than anybody else. That makes it Role Being Games, as opposed to for example The League of Albion's Role Playing Games ('The entire world is a stage and we are all players upon it').


But if every player is trying to steal a role, no-one will be putting much effort into playing their own role.

[Okazaki Castle]

So one of the things we need to occupy in relation to his forum is the position of Spammers, Hackers and other attacks. This is easy to do, and for wider strategic purposes I choose to do this from a Christian bent.

So then:

Repent all ye sinners! This is the dark side and far from the True Light of the Church. You are all misguided. You need to turn from dark pursuits and be welcomed into the bosom of our Father and the Virgin.

That's what I call the intro, where you inetrface with currently-established position in mindgrid, in this case a catholic fundemntalist. It is useful to do that interface in a way which leaves ambiguity loopholes for you to introduce things thru later. For example, in the above intro, there's the loophole of which way you turn and how you are welcomed by the Virgin, and which virgin that relates to (perhaps an ironic title?).

Then you do a Thundergod turnaround on that, crossing-over into a parrallel reality as you do so:

For verily chocolate is the One Great Sin and the pennance for its consumption is multi-layered and most arduous! Yea, ye must be beaten with a feathered whip or engage in much other Mars-related sybolism, like copious, forceful sex. Come then all ye sinful women, which is all of you btw cuz you all eat chocolate, ye must all get Well Laid as per the dictates of Thy Goddess, who does Command You into the supine position with a (f/c)lick of her tongue...


SSo that's a basic introduction to this approach. Quite staid and boring so far, it must be said, but gets the picture across in a relatively clear and low-disruption way. The harder you hit established reality the greater the mindgrid divergence you cause and so the more stress it places on you and mindgrid to do so.

This also connects to Timeline Crossovers and the immortality stuff btw. Part of the manipulation of the Shi, and controlling it or determining it to different time periods in different realities and star systems. Fun stuff. For later.

all the best all,
Okazaki Castle.

[Okazaki Castle]

But if every player is trying to steal a role, no-one will be putting much effort into playing their own role.

Solution: you finish you role or delegate it to Time to fulfil for you on automatic. Then you go off on holiday, being godform in present moment.

all the best,
Oazaki.

[fr.novumorganum]

Okazaki, sometimes I think you're Dr. Hyatt. Hmm, maybe you're just stealing that role.....

[Okazaki Castle]

Sheldrake has hypothesized a field of morphic ("pattern-related") resonance in which patterns of knowledge, structure or behavior of a certain kind of thing (whether a salt crystal or a human mind) become increasingly embedded as a "habit," an ingrained pattern of information which influences and is accessible to other members of that category of thing. In commenting on the rat experiments, Sheldrake said: "If rats are taught a new trick in Manchester, then rats of the same breed all over the world should show a tendency to learn the same trick more rapidly, even in the absence of any known type of physical connection or communication. The greater the number of rats that learn it, the easier it should become for their successors."

A minority of biologists have been suggesting the possibility of morphogenetic (form-generating) fields for decades. Sheldrake's unique contribution has been to create a testable hypothesis regarding such fields. Despite the fact that it seems to violate all broadly-accepted principles of science, the experimental evidence is rapidly mounting that, indeed, something of this kind is at work.

Sheldrake has ventured some guesses as to the relationship between morphogenetic fields and our individual memory and intelligence. He suggests that our brains may not contain memories and knowledge, per se, but may be devices for tuning in to relevant sections of the morphogenetic field for human memory, much as a radio tunes into radio waves. Our own personal memories would naturally be more accessible than those of other people or cultures (since, in morphogenetic resonance, like resonates with like), but theoretically the memories of every human (and other entities?) would be available to anyone capable of tuning in.

Sheldrake further wonders if natural laws are the evolving habits of the physical universe. An increasing number of scientists are believing that, ever since the Big Bang, the contents and processes of the universe have been evolving, and are evolving still. Sheldrake notes that it is an act of incredible faith to believe that all the laws governing the universe are so eternal and immutable that they existed prior to any of the contents of the universe. It is much more "natural" to believe that the readily-observable evolution of life, culture and our own selves are merely manifestations of an evolutionary tendency deeply embedded in the very nature of things

Deus (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=8856&postcount=10)Ex (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showpost.php?p=11195&postcount=12) Machina (http://www.freedesktopwallpapers.net/celebs/vin-diesel-xxx.jpg)

IE the principle made manifest. And Vin Diesel in there being a robot, to make sure he doesn;t run away - as me and Arnie remember him doing in Spartan times, when he should have held the shield wall. Arnie remembers that attitude in this lifetime too, and has it still against Vin Diesel. Ask anyone who knows him... (apparently)

Regards all,
Oazaki.

[Okazaki Castle]

OK....

One seems unable to understand some perspectives I think, so I will be brief:

I am now being Prince Clemens Von Metternich on Lycrugus terms via SAS delegation and thru Timewarp principles.

Given that I am deliberately being diplomatic and courteous I would request that if for some reason unbeknownst to me the admin team decides to delete on or more of my posts that I be sent a copy of it by PM. That is fair and reasonable I think, for I it is my work and so I want a record of it, even if I post it on open forum. This is a request, not a complaint. I hope that is clear, for I'm not entirely sure what direction things are going in at the moment...

Think I'll sit back and observe a while then, see what comes up...

Regards,
PCVM.

[Radiant Star]

I would request that if for some reason unbeknownst to me the admin team decides to delete on or more of my posts that I be sent a copy of it by PM. That is fair and reasonable I think, for I it is my work and so I want a record of it

As an adult, I would think it is your own responsibility to keep your own records. I doubt that anyone here is willing to be an unpaid secretary.

[Anibis]

I think it is your responsibility to keep a record of these materials. When you put them up online, you are giving them to the forum to manage them how we see fit.
-Ibisis

[Kuroyagi]

I think it is your responsibility to keep a record of these materials. When you put them up online, you are giving them to the forum to manage them how we see fit.
-Ibisis wow I didnt know that- thats a despotic policy.

[m1thr0s]

wow I didnt know that- thats a despotic policy.You need to get out more Kuroyagi! This is the policy of every discussion forum I have ever been a party to. During my years posting at OF I lost upwards to 7000 posts due to assorted hacks and so on...all gone, or partially restored at best. Because I didn't bother to copy many of those posts down to my own hardrive, they are just gone. Demanding a copy of them from anyone would simply be ridiculous.

People do need to be aware of this if they are not already. While no one here has any vested interest in plagiarizing or directly capitalizing upon anyone else's intellectual property, this site reserves the right to manage site content any way it sees fit and does not owe anyone any explanation or compensation for actions taken with respect to that content on any level.

It's got nothing to do with "despotism"...this is a naiive interpretation of a necessary (and lawful) administrative protocols. No one can completely guarantee the security or permanence of any materials posted here. If it's important enough to be concerned about it, people should always save a copy for their own records.

perhaps people should review the agreement they came in under:

While the administrators and moderators of this forum will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every message. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence will not be held liable.

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By registering and posting on these forums you have agreed to all the terms and conditions set out.this is all very standard stuff...no discussion forum of this kind could function effectively if it had to respond to every demand for copies of materials removed for cause.

Communities of this sort are largely built on trust. If you don't trust Abrahadabra Forums not to abuse you or your posting priviledges/content, you really shouldn't post here. Every page on this site contains a clearly posted copyright notice and while no one has any intent whatsoever to "cash in" on anyone else's creative constructs, should push come to shove, all site content is the legal property of this site and its lawful owner, in this case me.

Welcome to the real world...it really needn't bother anyone as there really is no conspiratorial subterfuge occuring here.

m1thr0s

[Kuroyagi]

I am aware of all that and I hate bickering. I was specifically talking about the one sentence I quoted that had the connotation of: we will edit as we see fit (based on our fancy). but I do understand those rules.

maybe we can discuss this question (when is something "despotic"?) in a more general way in the philosophy forum, some day.

apart form that this is a good topic. maybe I'll write more later. :)

[m1thr0s]

well, discretion and fancy are hardly synonymous ideas but even so, moderators "fancy" is all perfectly transparent...to uphold the integrity of this site to the best of their abilities...otherwise I simply cannot use them in a moderating capacity...

show me the "despot" and perhaps we will have some basis to a determination of "despotism"...

m1thr0s

[Anibis]

I think you may mean to portray me as the despot, Kuroyagi... an interesting choice. Looks safe to you, maybe... well, I didn't use the term 'fancy', I used the term 'see fit', as in using our Judgement, maintaining the 'integrity of the site', as m1 as put it, not to mention the safety of the people who come here. And yes, Kuroyagi, when it comes to handling and managing what is put before me as a moderator, I will use my judgement, and will secure a general agreement with the other mods... But if this is all about your own personal reaction to my phrasing, then I'll offer an appology for hitting such a nerve with you. Is there a deeper issue here though?
-Ibisis

[Kuroyagi]

As i said: I'd like to discuss this more objectively at some time. Cause its true: this is how rules and laws are often handled: they somtimes seem to be put up for the sake of PR, as a shield and a framework to express the personal tastes of the forum-owners. It would be more honest to put up a statement on the front page that says: (m1thr0s) "This is my forum. There are no rules except the ones I make. I will decide sponateously case by case and with the help of my trusted mods. See if you fit in, contribute and enjoy the forums!" But I see that this doesnt resonate well with a modern crowd. It would be too deterriorating (scare them off). but it would be more just and honest. yet I see that this is not how the world works. I neednt like it. Im a bit too idealistic in this respect. But I also would like to see more rulers who follow rules for their own sake- cause they basically think that those rules are just and thereby wont bend them when they contradict their own tastes in some cases. Very platonic, isnt it? But maybe all-out platonism isnt that cool either. Could be some philosophic discussion. Im indecisive here and will think about it a bit more ok?

Ibisis, m1thr0s: I respect you and your work and as I said, I'll continue to learn from your insights. (I mean it.)

[Radiant Star]

Now thats sorted, lets get back to the topic.

[Naomi]

Hmm, Ibisis when I click on the link it takes me to a broken link. Got an alt?

[m1thr0s]

this whole petty little quarrel was going noplace Naomi...the split-off thread has been archived.

we can always try it again if we can approach it in more general terms. I'm not playing anybody's damn punching bag here or anywhere else. Nor am I going to allow moderators to be dragged into some bullshit kick-the-can session they have done nothing to warrant.

The topic itself has its merits...I suggest somebody start it again at some point.

m1thr0s