What's your tarot, and why?

[Ci Celli Ddu]

e.g.

What's your tarot?

Hierophant

Why?

03+10+1972=23=5

[Hairetikos]

I'm opening up to the concept that each card symbolizes an aspect of your being, so my answer would be all twenty-two trumps. Even if only as a latent archetype.

[Ci Celli Ddu]

I'm opening up to the concept that each card symbolizes an aspect of your being, so my answer would be all twenty-two trumps. Even if only as a latent archetype.

That's pretty much a given. However, most people empathise with one or two cards in particular, for whatever reason. Personally my favourites are the ones emphasized in my personal horoscope, where Justice (Libra) shares first place with The Devil (Capricorn). The example above is numerological calculation from a birthdate. Not too happy with that one for several reasons, like a)I don't really get the outcome and b) what if I used a different dating system for the calculation? or c)what if I use a non decimal calculatory system?

I once devised a 22 year calendar based on the Tarot for some friends in Berlin. Basically year one is your first year represented by the Tarot that is connected to your sun sign in astrology, so in my case October 1972-October 1973 was the year of Justice. The next years in the cycle would follow the order of the traditional Tarot. A couple of years later a friend called me to tell me (among other things) how accurate this system was in defining what was going on in people's lives. I'd completely forgotten about it to be honest (I used to create those kind of things regularly as a passtime, like doodling really) and was like, yeah, sure, whatever, I'm happy for you.

[Hairetikos]

However, most people empathise with one or two cards in particular, for whatever reason.

I think Crowley devised some sort of system for figuring this out. Let me break out his Thoth book... Here we go. The old Crow says that the Personality card is found by adding up your birthday. The Character card is a cross-sum of the Personality card, which only works if your P. card is two-digit to begin with. I.e. if your P. card is 21, then your C. card is 3 (2+1). The Growth card is calculated by adding together the day and month of your birthday with the current year.

I once devised a 22 year calendar based on the Tarot for some friends in Berlin.

Wait, now I know Crowley did something like this, too. I don't recall exactly, but his Thelemic calendar is something similar to this. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can clarify.

[Hairetikos]

Okay, here's a link to some info on the Thelemic calendar (http://oto-usa.org/calendar.html). I guess great minds think alike, huh?

[Ci Celli Ddu]

I think Crowley devised some sort of system for figuring this out. Let me break out his Thoth book... Here we go. The old Crow says that the Personality card is found by adding up your birthday. The Character card is a cross-sum of the Personality card, which only works if your P. card is two-digit to begin with. I.e. if your P. card is 21, then your C. card is 3 (2+1). The Growth card is calculated by adding together the day and month of your birthday with the current year.


That's in the first example I posted. Like I said, it's relative to what calculatory system and what dating system you wish to use. The outcome will not be the same. For this reason it is not sufficiently water-tight to resonate with me. For cultural reasons using any dating system is generally a no-no (as an incarnation of my ancestors, Ive been in Europe for around 30 millenia at the very least. BC/AD or even Common Era are of no validity to me). Calculation wise my lot count in 20s, not 10s, though as a Sci-Fi fan I have a soft spot for Binary too.

[Neshamah]

Perhaps some of you have a theory about this. My dates and addition:

02 + 20 + 1953 = 1975

1 + 9 + 7 + 5 = 22

Now, is my card The Fool, or The Emperor, or both?

I have my own feelings about this, but I'd like to see what some of you think first.

Love, Light, and Peace,

Neshamah

[Frater Yechidah]

My vote would be both, personally speaking, and that would go for cards 20 and 21 too.

My own card:

04 + 06 + 1987 = 1997

1 + 9 + 9 + 7 = 26

2 + 6 = 8

So, that's Strength, which comes up a lot for me.


LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

[Radiant Star]

My card is the Justice card.

It represents justice and fairness. Decisions made on ethical grounds and looking at all sides of an issue; impartiality and honesty. Acceptance of mistakes and trying to do what is right in all situations.

[Bagadal]

18+04+1990
=22+1990
=2012
=5

Heirophant it is. Why not I can find me in all of them lol. Prone to dogmatic, "I'm right", arrogant, fond of tradition, persistent. Sure.

[silentjohn]

http://www.alleged.org.uk/pdc/tarot/wands-king-100w.png

[Frater CaO]

Well ok the lets see:

1984 + 04 + 28 = 2016 = 2+1+6 = 9

Allright, 9 is The Hermit. Hmmm, well, sure. I can relate to that pretty stongly actually. But the Tarot is as it is known an representation of the human psyche also so relating to it isnt that hard :)
Interesting result though.. fascinating to say the least.. well off to read some "Understanding crowleys thoth tarot" now!

/HL!

[phronesis]

I am a three,so Le Bateleur who symbolises so much about me, what I do,and what really interests me. The infinity symbol, the cups and balls, the whole card is superb,especially the Noblet Tarot.....

[Neshamah]

I posted earlier in this thread (#7) but I never really claimed a card as "my own." If you had asked me a year or two ago I would have chosen The Hanged Man XII. But, many things have changed in the past few weeks (and months) in my life, and now I would choose another card entirely (see below):

http://neshamah.zoints.com/image/59566-TheHermit-AnsataTarot


Definitely works for me. :)

From my cave,

Neshamah

[m1thr0s]

interesting...I've been laboring under the Hermit possibly all my life. Other forces/influences come and go of course but the Hermit always remains...

Not sure why or anything...just the way the cards landed I guess.

http://abrahadabra.com/images/hermit01.jpg


m1

[MythMath]

It's not a trump card, but by jumping out
of the deck one day, it chose me:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q48/MythMath/6ofSwordscopy.jpg
abrahadabra

[phronesis]

While Le Bateleur is my primary card, the Hermit is my secondary card....

[Dragon]

I think Crowley devised some sort of system.... I.e. if your P. card is 21, then your C. card is 3 (2+1). The Growth card is calculated by adding together the day and month of your birthday with the current year.



Wait, now I know Crowley did something like this, too. I don't recall exactly, but his Thelemic calendar is something similar to this. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can clarify.


I was never a fan of lateral reduction, for a number of reasons it doesn't hold much water with me, actually it tastes metaphorically like Kool Aid to me - so I don't use it in my calculations.

I think that choice of a personal tarot symbol ( on whatever level or plane the choice is made on) should be based more on relativity and feel. If one is to choose based in numerology, I would recommend a stronger, more sophisticated way of arriving at the totals.

Just my thought.

~D~

[fr.novumorganum]

http://www.hellshaw.com/reeducks/thoth/pics/emperor.jpg

[Neshamah]

There is a system that uses one's Sun-sign card and Moon-sign card, along with the Ascendant and anything that is directly related to it (the Ascendant). But, in order to do this exercise you have to know the traditional attributions of the Tarot to the Zodiac.

Most authorities associate The Hermit with Virgo -- but Bernard Mertz (Ansata Tarot) attributes The Hermit with Neptune (as you can see in the lower left-hand corner of the card posted above). This Hermit is from the Masonic Tarot and is associated with Saturn (another prominent planet in my chart -- Neptune and Saturn are both within 4 degrees of my Ascendant). I love the images on the Masonic deck:

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Light, Life, and Love.

For a Peace Profound,

Neshamah

[content persephone]

so I finally got around to trying a couple methods to figure out my card:

method 1:
07+07+1969=14+1969=1983=21

If I am doing this right (not much of a math person here - geometry, perhaps a bit more so). Anyhow, I seem to come up as - the World.

So at first, I admit, I was thinking a bit negatively about this method - World really is not a card that I would typically think of as *representing* me (although it has been coming up in many of my readings this year and last.) Then I start thinking, well....that is, ehm, rather *interesting*. Different from what I might have thought - but worthy of consideration.

So then I think I should perhaps try another method for determining my card.

Method 2:

I settle on a number which has always resonated for me - cheesy as it may sound - and that number is Seven. So the card for number seven is the Chariot.

I have to say that the Chariot has very frequently shown up in my readings for the past 10 years or so - very often as a signifier. So this also gave me serious pause for thought.....

Lastly, method 3 -

I considered the card that comes up the *most* frequently as the signifier for my readings - that card is Queen of Cups.

So then I get to thinking....perhaps these cards are all more alike...in a sense...than different?

Then I start thinking that my head might explode.

Does not compute....

To be quite frank, I am feeling much less than triumphant, in any way, at this time in my life.

Granted, my methodology in the above experiment was less than unbiased.

Feedback?

[Ritual_Kiss]

The Princess of Cups from the Thoth deck chooses me repeatedly. Every time I ask for a card to represent me, I draw this one.

http://www.angelpaths.com/images/cupsprs.jpg

My understanding is that it represents the the process of crystallization; the creative process.

[Dragon]

Anybody who knows me would probably agree that although, like anyone, I drift through periods in my life where all of the Atu become more prevalent in both my circumstances and internal conditions (they come and go in waves) - The one card that is constantly pinning down the undercurrent is Atu XIII - Death.

It has more to do with who I am instead of what I'm doing, and through its transformational aspects it allows me to change through the other Atu in a cleaner way, as I tend to kill a measure, full or not, of the the previous environment between each transition - allowing the new mask to fit tighter as it were, while at the same time keeping the archetype core integral because it's function and style is based in the change itself. Being the change itself. The card has all the usual celestial and numerological earmarks that would be associated with my existence, but it also fits rights; feels right; I understand it.

As long as I constantly die I can continue to live. ever changing - ever there. Ever being -

everywhere.


Mors ultima ratio motu proprio. Death is the final accounting of one's own initiative.


~D~

[Ci Celli Ddu]

Mors ultima ratio motu proprio.

Is that yours? I think I'll use that one in my novel.

[Dragon]

Is that yours? I think I'll use that one in my novel.


Yes, that is a Dragon original. :cool:

~D~

[m1thr0s]

Feedback?not so much in terms of interpreting this reading but I wonder if you have *expanded* on the card that seems to be troubling you...just a trick I picked up somewhere in route. treat the card that is giving you trouble like a querrant card and run a crossing-above/below-behind/ahead on that card alone. This will often yield a lot more clarification on that specific card. I prefer to do this with a fresh (or second) deck personally so that the the whole deck is involved in the clarification. If you don't have a second deck, you can just record the reading and then go back in and expand the cards you need to...

the shorthand version of this is just to run a crossing card. In many cases this will prove enough to clarify the situation...

If you have good familiarity with the Tree of Life, you can also run readings following that matrix...I have several of these matrix patterns I may use in different situations...the Lo Shu magic Square, Tetractys, Tree of Life and a handful of others...this will give you a second opinion under a different kind of lens. Astrological Houses is yet another matrix that can yield valuable insights...run your querrant/crossing at center and then place cards in houses 1-12...

m1